outside door handle stuck

[ssabripo]

Originally Posted by gregwx5

Here the write up I made when my driver side carrier broke!

Had same problem...seemed complicated at first but is actually very easy!

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WOW!!! Can I say Thank You x5world!!! I managed to fix my door handle and the problem was exactly with part #15. The actual metal structure that held one of the parts fatigued and broke off making the handle inopperable. I bought my part from the dealership..$112 but $89 with CCA


For future reference these are the steps I followed:

1) Remove door panal using instructions on main page. I disconnected my battery. You have to unbolt the airbag, but do not have to disconnect it. I just taped it to the door so it does not hang by the cable.

2) Pop off the painted trim piece that is around the key hole on the exterior of the door.

3) Pop off the black plastic oval on the side of the door. (2 pieces)

4) The hex screw (#17) that holds the carrier is located inside this hole. You will NOT see the screw by looking directly into the hole towards the front of the car. You must look into the hole as if you were looking at the side of the door (It took me a while to find this screw, just don't look into the hole directly because the screw is off to the side). The hex screw that holds the carrier screws into the lock assembly, you could see the hole from the outside. Once you find the screw remove it.

5. After removing the hex screw, the lock assembly (key hole) is lose. Gently pry out the entire assembly (the end of the shaft has a star shaped structure that presses into another piece when putting everything back together)

6. Now you could see the bolt and nut that holds the handle to part of the door carrier. The bolt has a square head. Remove this bolt.

7. Now the handle could be removed by pulling the handle up and twisting. The handle will pivot on the left side, then pull it out of the carrier.

8. Once the handle is removed, remove the rubber seal and the philips head screw (#16) holding the carrier is exposed underneath.

9. Disconnect the cable on the inside of the door. Unsnap the white plastic piece, and the metal cable with ball.

10. The old carrier could now be removed, and the install the new one using the same idea.

Originally Posted by Blowout

I'm currently in the throws of replacing the driver door carrier as well. As described by others, the outside handle was popped out a bit and the door would not open from outside. From the inside everything worked fine.

One addition to gregwx5 step by step is on #7.

- Once the nut was removed from the handle, I needed to slightly pry out that edge because there is a detent holding the end of the handle to the carrier and preventing the handle from rotating. Once that was done it twisted as described.

Once removed, the carrier showed a break on the side with the spring. This is weak spot in the design of this part it seems. They must sell alot of these.

Thanks the information posted by others on this thread. It kept another X5 owner from opening their wallet to a stealer.

mine just broke!

gonna be doing this this weekend!

[jrutherf32708]

Originally Posted by gregwx5

Here the write up I made when my driver side carrier broke!

Had same problem...seemed complicated at first but is actually very easy!

http://www.xoutpost.com/x5-e53-forum/...tml#post421172


WOW!!! Can I say Thank You x5world!!! I managed to fix my door handle and the problem was exactly with part #15. The actual metal structure that held one of the parts fatigued and broke off making the handle inopperable. I bought my part from the dealership..$112 but $89 with CCA


For future reference these are the steps I followed:

1) Remove door panal using instructions on main page. I disconnected my battery. You have to unbolt the airbag, but do not have to disconnect it. I just taped it to the door so it does not hang by the cable.

2) Pop off the painted trim piece that is around the key hole on the exterior of the door.

3) Pop off the black plastic oval on the side of the door. (2 pieces)

4) The hex screw (#17) that holds the carrier is located inside this hole. You will NOT see the screw by looking directly into the hole towards the front of the car. You must look into the hole as if you were looking at the side of the door (It took me a while to find this screw, just don't look into the hole directly because the screw is off to the side). The hex screw that holds the carrier screws into the lock assembly, you could see the hole from the outside. Once you find the screw remove it.

5. After removing the hex screw, the lock assembly (key hole) is lose. Gently pry out the entire assembly (the end of the shaft has a star shaped structure that presses into another piece when putting everything back together)

6. Now you could see the bolt and nut that holds the handle to part of the door carrier. The bolt has a square head. Remove this bolt.

7. Now the handle could be removed by pulling the handle up and twisting. The handle will pivot on the left side, then pull it out of the carrier.

8. Once the handle is removed, remove the rubber seal and the philips head screw (#16) holding the carrier is exposed underneath.

9. Disconnect the cable on the inside of the door. Unsnap the white plastic piece, and the metal cable with ball.

10. The old carrier could now be removed, and the install the new one using the same idea.

These directions were great !!!!; they made the difference in me being able to finish the job or take the car to someone else to finish.

[CrazyOneToo]

[QUOTE=gregwx5;440278]

2) Pop off the painted trim piece that is around the key hole on the exterior of the door.

3) Pop off the black plastic oval on the side of the door. (2 pieces)

4) The hex screw (#17) that holds the carrier is located inside this hole. You will NOT see the screw by looking directly into the hole towards the front of the car. You must look into the hole as if you were looking at the side of the door (It took me a while to find this screw, just don't look into the hole directly because the screw is off to the side). The hex screw that holds the carrier screws into the lock assembly, you could see the hole from the outside. Once you find the screw remove it.

5. After removing the hex screw, the lock assembly (key hole) is lose. Gently pry out the entire assembly (the end of the shaft has a star shaped structure that presses into another piece when putting everything back together)

6. Now you could see the bolt and nut that holds the handle to part of the door carrier. The bolt has a square head. Remove this bolt.



Can the door lock cover and lock be removed via the bolt under the plastic cover at the rear end of the door and without removing the door panel? I just want to check if the bolt shown below is loose and allowing my door handle to droop down a bit. Thanks

[Bouchedag84]

Holy mother of God this is impossible!
I've managed to remove the carrier but now I'm trying to put the new one in. I've got it in, however I cannot get it to align properly with the handle or the smaller part (triangular shape) handle. The carrier will just NOT align flush with the inside of the door. Either the front part (where the black notch of the handle twists into the carrier) aligns but then the back part of the handle will not align. I am going nuts. I've tried the old carrier and it won't align either. I'm at my wits end!

[GNP]

Originally Posted by Bouchedag84

Holy mother of God this is impossible!
I've managed to remove the carrier but now I'm trying to put the new one in. I've got it in, however I cannot get it to align properly with the handle or the smaller part (triangular shape) handle. The carrier will just NOT align flush with the inside of the door. Either the front part (where the black notch of the handle twists into the carrier) aligns but then the back part of the handle will not align. I am going nuts. I've tried the old carrier and it won't align either. I'm at my wits end!

This might help from another thread:

LVP has just replied to a thread you have subscribed to entitled - Door Lock Stuck - Fix with Pics!!! - in the X5 (E53) Forum forum of Xoutpost.com.

This thread is located at:
http://www.xoutpost.com/bmw-sav-foru...-new-post.html

Here is the message that has just been posted:
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I just did this on the front passenger side. One thing to note that will help others. If you look at step 2 of the door handle carrier steps, you can see that as you remove the blank or the lock, there are small indents in the straight profiles of it. When re-installing, you need to insert the blank/lock as far as it will go, press the carrier tight from behind and slide the blank/lock towards the handle. So, squeeze together tight, slide blank/lock towards the handle. This will lock the two together in alignment, but it will also align properly to get that screw mentioned in step 8 of the first post to line up.

Hope that helps.
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Or read thread referenced above for more details. Good luck!

[kalsingh1]

Hi Guys,

My front pass door is deadlocked and I cant open it. There is no tension on the outside handle, and the inside handle only pops up the door lock indictor. I remember the door did this last summer, and I just thumped the door a few timed on the in and outside, and the door started to work.
But nothing seems to work, I have been advised that I need to take off the inside trim whilst the door is still deadlocked. I have tried this, taking of all bolts suggested on this site, but the door trim seems solid and I fear the door aperature is holding it in place? Catach 22?
Has anyone got advice other than taking the car to the main dealer, I would appreciate it. Many Thanks in advance.

[primetime]

Originally Posted by kalsingh1

Hi Guys,

My front pass door is deadlocked and I cant open it. There is no tension on the outside handle, and the inside handle only pops up the door lock indictor. I remember the door did this last summer, and I just thumped the door a few timed on the in and outside, and the door started to work.
But nothing seems to work, I have been advised that I need to take off the inside trim whilst the door is still deadlocked. I have tried this, taking of all bolts suggested on this site, but the door trim seems solid and I fear the door aperature is holding it in place? Catach 22?
Has anyone got advice other than taking the car to the main dealer, I would appreciate it. Many Thanks in advance.

Couple things...1 I believe there is a DIY on this site on how do it. 2. You definitely need a new door handle carrier. If you don't want to deal with the hassle of taking apart the door yourself, because it is a tedious process, take it to the dealer and have them replace it... Thats what i did, it cost me $500 US.

There is no lubricant or any type of substance or "quick fix" that will allow you to open your door better without getting this fixed.. Honestly..you will need to get this fixed very soon..Or you won't be able to open it from the inside either then you have a major problem on your hands...

[kalsingh1]

Hi how are you.

Thats the problem I now can't open the door from the inside or outside, it's stuck. I just thought someone might have gone through the same problem and might have some advice other than the main dealer. I just don't know how to get the door open, then I would be quite capable of replacing the carrier, if it is the carrier?????
Any one out there?

Thanks

[primetime]

Originally Posted by kalsingh1

Hi how are you.

Thats the problem I now can't open the door from the inside or outside, it's stuck. I just thought someone might have gone through the same problem and might have some advice other than the main dealer. I just don't know how to get the door open, then I would be quite capable of replacing the carrier, if it is the carrier?????
Any one out there?

Thanks

Uh...Uh oh... If you can't open the door from inside or outside you have a problem... The door needs to be opened to replace the carrier and anything else involved... this has happened to a couple members. Now you have no other options but to take it to the dealer. They had to break the door open to get it open. Then the guy had to pay for all the parts that broke with the door and hinges.. If there is a way to get it open without breaking the door, the dealer will know how. But honestly the chances aren't good.. That is why when these door handle carriers break, or when this type of problem happens, you only have a limited amount of time before you can not open the door from inside either... Guys, get this stuff fixed before its too late and you'll be spending major $$$ paying for a broken door getting replaced...

[kalsingh1]

Hi Guys,

Thanks for your comments. I actually use a mechanic who works for a main bmw dealer, I have used him previously.
I will book with him, as he is cheaper. I will keep you posted on the outcome.

Thanks

Kal
England.