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Old 03-01-2008, 11:04 PM
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DKL, well, if you think im doing overkill, what do you call this then?
I would like to see the actual TSB that recommends using additives every 3k. If that's the case, then there's definitely a design flaw in BMW engines since no other manufacturers have this recommendation. It's a catch22 when using fuel additives. While it's great for fuel injectors and intake valves, the concentrated additives isn't good for alot of the other components in the fuel system.
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Old 03-01-2008, 11:24 PM
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yes of course, i respect your opinion and all the things you said makes sense. I was just saying that it's been my practice, although i have never encourage anybody to do it. It might be or not be because of it that my bimmers last long without any problems, but it's just me. But i have deep respect for you sir


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I would like to see the actual TSB that recommends using additives every 3k. If that's the case, then there's definitely a design flaw in BMW engines since no other manufacturers have this recommendation. It's a catch22 when using fuel additives. While it's great for fuel injectors and intake valves, the concentrated additives isn't good for alot of the other components in the fuel system.
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Old 03-01-2008, 11:33 PM
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Nice catch, but why would you ever pour that into your gas tank???
This is a very good debate, but I go back to my original post - I have 81K miles on my X5, never poured anything like that into my tank. The car runs fine, so should I start dumping that stuff in once in a while?
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This is a very good debate, but I go back to my original post - I have 81K miles on my X5, never poured anything like that into my tank. The car runs fine, so should I start dumping that stuff in once in a while?
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I never heard of some of those companies; and I'm surprised not to see Exxon Mobile on there.
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I purchased my 2004 X5 used in 2006. Whenever I got stuck in bumper to bumper traffic on the freeway my X would jerk like it was going to stall. The only way to stop it was to give it a little extra gas. I took it to the dealership and they told me my engine needed to be decarbon because of build up. It cost $170 to get the decarbon. Afterwards the mechanic told me to only use Chevron gas and to put a bottle of the fuel cleaner in about every 3000 miles.

Well since 2006 I have only added the fuel cleaner twice and my car is running fine. I think every 3000 miles is too aggressive since I am using Chevron gas which includes small amounts of Techron anyway. So maybe once or twice a year for me.
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Decarboned?

What did they do for <$200 to "decarbon" it?
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I don't recall the exact steps but I think the mechanic said something about doing a pressurized flush on the engine (but don't quote me on that as its been 2 years since I had the conversation with him).

I did keep the receipt. Here is what it says:

Installed 82 14 0 413 341 :FUEL SYSTEM CLEANER [email protected]
ENGINE DECARBON COMPLETE
Labor: 137.95 Parts: 32.00 Total: 169.95

Based on the receipt it looks like they charged me 137.95 to add two bottles of cleaner!
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THis is funny because Porsches recommended fuel additive is Techron
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I use a fuel system cleaner every few thousand miles. I use to use Redline, but I cannot find it in stores anymore. My question is, can you use the techron with Shell gas, or is it better to use it with Chevron?
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