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Old 01-10-2018, 04:08 PM
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You have to drop the entire transmission pan off to get at the sealing sleeve release tab/lever, so yes, you will be doing a fluid change (or at least a big top-up).







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Awesome. Thanks for that wicked link.
I will be changing at least 1 solenoid too then, hoping that solves all issues.

I have a leaking sleeve and X case actuator seal. Smh. So I'm gonna change the gear wheels while at it since I don't know if they were ever done. Even tho I have no issues or trifecta lights.


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Yes, that is a very interesting thread, and I don't even have a ZF transmission in my X5.

From that:
"Why was his invention so important? Well, in ZF’s case - compared with the 5-speed 5HP24 unit that it replaced - the 6HP26 had 29% fewer parts (down from 666 to 470), was 44mm shorter (reduced from 697mm to 653mm) and weighed 12% less, despite its higher torque capacity and increased ratio spread. Most of the world’s OEMs switched to 6-speed transmissions as a result."

I hope the guy made a lot of $$ from that great invention.
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Alright guys I'm in a similar position as OP. I was having trouble trying to find the fill plug on my 04-06 with the GA6HP26Z transmission, XDrive etc...


I just finished up doing the mechatronic sleeve and the other rectangular sealing gasket that goes around the valve body, put the pan back on with new filter and saw this thread, started filling up the transmission through the larger pan hole that's recessed in, I found a channel to slip the tube in to and pumped ~2.5 L of lifeguard 6 in there and it started flowing back out. That can't be a complete fill. The only thing took off was the pan/valve body for mech sleeve service and put back together. I didn't track how much fluid came out unfortunately. I don't want to turn it on with low fluid, any suggestions on how to proceed.


I've heard folks talk about a "pressure pump" to do this. Let me know what you think thanks in advance for any ideas guys. Almost done with a 5 month project to keep my 4.8is alive.
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Alright guys I'm in a similar position as OP. I was having trouble trying to find the fill plug on my 04-06 with the GA6HP26Z transmission, XDrive etc...


I just finished up doing the mechatronic sleeve and the other rectangular sealing gasket that goes around the valve body, put the pan back on with new filter and saw this thread, started filling up the transmission through the larger pan hole that's recessed in, I found a channel to slip the tube in to and pumped ~2.5 L of lifeguard 6 in there and it started flowing back out. That can't be a complete fill. The only thing took off was the pan/valve body for mech sleeve service and put back together. I didn't track how much fluid came out unfortunately. I don't want to turn it on with low fluid, any suggestions on how to proceed.


I've heard folks talk about a "pressure pump" to do this. Let me know what you think thanks in advance for any ideas guys. Almost done with a 5 month project to keep my 4.8is alive.


Negative. Fill hole is on the side. Passenger side of tranny. Towards the back iirc.
You fill it till fluid runs out. Cap it. Start the car run thru the gears real quick while standing on the brake.
Back to park, monitor fluid temp and continue to fill.
Iirc to correctly read level temp must be between. 35-40c. Something like that.
Then once it's in that temp range and running, fill till fluid is leaking out the fill hole again. Then stop. Plug. Done.
If the fluid temp is outside that temperature range the level reading may be incorrect.



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Negative. Fill hole is on the side. Passenger side of tranny. Towards the back iirc.
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Well-meaning advice but incorrect.

Not ALL fill plugs are like that - mine certainly isn't. Some ZF 6HP26 transmissions have the fill hole in the pan - and no fill hole on the trans body.

The folk talking about filling the trans from the larger hole in the pan are correct (for those with a ZF 6HP26 of this type).
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Well-meaning advice but incorrect.

Not ALL fill plugs are like that - mine certainly isn't. Some ZF 6HP26 transmissions have the fill hole in the pan - and no fill hole on the trans body.

The folk talking about filling the trans from the larger hole in the pan are correct (for those with a ZF 6HP26 of this type).


That may be the case, but I'd bet his 4.8iS has in on the side.


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That may be the case, but I'd bet his 4.8iS has in on the side.


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It does.

I put mine in the air and put it in gear while filling then cycle thru the gears till full at temp and do fill level checks after driving and let it cool down to 40-50. I could probably get away with it at air temp over here to be honest but touching pavement here is as dangerous as cooking bacon naked.

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... I just finished up doing the mechatronic sleeve and the other rectangular sealing gasket that goes around the valve body, put the pan back on with new filter and saw this thread, started filling up the transmission through the larger pan hole that's recessed in, ...
Sounds like jayarc has a steel pan. I don't think you can generalise based on "4.8iS" or "3.0d" ... If the pan is steel and there are two "ports" on the pan - one being a drain hole and the other being a fill hole - there will be no fill port on the trans body. Unless a different pan has been added since the car left the factory...



From here...

https://www.thectsc.com/bmw-6hp26x-t...-steel-oil-pan

If the pan is plastic, then the trans will have a fill port on the trans body...



https://www.thectsc.com/bmw-6hp26-%E...vel-procedures

Seems there's a bit of variation in what is fitted to what...
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Sounds like jayarc has a steel pan. I don't think you can generalise based on "4.8iS" or "3.0d" ... If the pan is steel and there are two "ports" on the pan - one being a drain hole and the other being a fill hole - there will be no fill port on the trans body. Unless a different pan has been added since the car left the factory...







From here...



https://www.thectsc.com/bmw-6hp26x-t...-steel-oil-pan



If the pan is plastic, then the trans will have a fill port on the trans body...







BMW 6HP26 – 6HP28 Transmission fluid level procedures: Genuine ZF Parts



Seems there's a bit of variation in what is fitted to what...


Well, my 04 4.8iS has a steel pan and guess what, there's a fill hole on the side. So there's that.
I think most 4.8iS have the side fill hole.


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Well, my 04 4.8iS has a steel pan and guess what, there's a full hole on the side. So there's that.
I honk most 4.8iS have the side fill hole.


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Even if it does, that is not the fill hole, and you cannot get the proper level going through the side. I have never seen people fill through the side when proper fill procedure is on bottom. But do you.
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