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Old 09-07-2005, 01:28 PM
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Yeah, can't believe how the gas prices shot up in North NJ. Hopefully that is temporarily. Usually, the NJ gas prices are about $0.20-30 lower than SoCal and now your guys are about $0.40-0.50 higher than SoCal....Yeah, I saw it with my own eyes.

Also, with all the local roads you have to use in North Jersery, you ended up using more gas than driving on the highways (unless you get stuck in traffic in L.A.)


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With gas prices the way they are, it's hard for me to rationalize getting a BIGGER V8. Having 2 cars with high performance V8's is a drain on the wallet for me. (z06 and 4.4i)
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My biggest fear is that with the '07 model comes a new standard V8 which is said to have more power than the 4.8. I wonder if the large premium for this version will be greatly reduced when this new V8 becomes available and the performance does not seem so exclusive. Any thoughts?
The new X5 will come in 3.0 and 4.8 (4.4 will be replaced with 4.8) and the 5.0 an year later as 2008 model.
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Not well...Go with the 4.8...The 4.8s hold their value much more than the 4.4i. Both do well...the 4.8 holds it and maintains it. Look at 02 and 03 4.6is...they are still brining rediculous money...
I'm not sure about this, or at least BMW doesn't agree. If you look at the leases, the residuals for the 4.8is are actually lower than that for the 4.4i.

My lease on a loaded 4.4i is $750 per month on a 39 month lease vs. $1350 for the 4.8is. Considering the price difference between the two was less than $10K, that means the 4.8is will be valued at roughly $10K less than the 4.4i at the end of the lease.

Doesn't sound right, but that's the way it seems to be according to BMW's numbers. Now it could be that you could turn that 4.8is around and sell if for more and pocket the difference, but BMW puts the residual surprisingly low.
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Old 09-07-2005, 04:55 PM
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Sorry, but bigger car doesn't mean heavier, actually all the latest bmw's 3,5,Z (don't know about the 7) have been bigger, lighter and stronger that the model they replaced, since bmw is using less and less steal and more and more aluminium and/or plastic/carbon fiber component.
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Sorry, but bigger car doesn't mean heavier, actually all the latest bmw's 3,5,Z (don't know about the 7) have been bigger, lighter and stronger that the model they replaced, since bmw is using less and less steal and more and more aluminium and/or plastic/carbon fiber component.
Actually every new 3 series has been heavier than the one it replaced. The E90 330i has a listed weight of 3417 lbs vs. 3285 for the E46 330i. I cant speak for the 5-series, but I believe the E60 is heavier than the equivalent E39 was as well. The aluminum and carbon fiber has not been used extensively on most models to keep weight down below the previous model. Only on certain models (CSL, M6) has it really been significant.
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Sorry, but bigger car doesn't mean heavier, actually all the latest bmw's 3,5,Z (don't know about the 7) have been bigger, lighter and stronger that the model they replaced, since bmw is using less and less steal and more and more aluminium and/or plastic/carbon fiber component.

Sorry but a seven seater with a bigger engine will mean it'll be heavier and this is not an M car so i dont expect too many carbon bits on it! Unless they're building it out of styrofoam!
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The new X5 will come in 3.0 and 4.8 (4.4 will be replaced with 4.8) and the 5.0 an year later as 2008 model.

5.0 in 2008...I like the sound of that! I just hope I like the new look of the X5. Does anyone have pics of what the new X5 will look like?

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4.8 is a true sports car, and should be treated as such, bumps, etc., are felt in sports cars. If you want a nimble SAV with a somewhat smooth ride then get the 3.0 or 4.4 if you want a beast to be driven then get the 4.8 IMHO there is no comparison.
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Not well...Go with the 4.8...The 4.8s hold their value much more than the 4.4i. Both do well...the 4.8 holds it and maintains it. Look at 02 and 03 4.6is...they are still brining rediculous money...
yup..i was lookin a t 4.4 for 4700$ more i got 4.6 all options, so u vant go wrong, more options, better re-sale, and sh!t a lot of fun to drive..simple, buy a 330i or an m3....thats the differnce, more $, more car, better resale.
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With gas prices the way they are, it's hard for me to rationalize getting a BIGGER V8. Having 2 cars with high performance V8's is a drain on the wallet for me. (z06 and 4.4i)
You could always get this.
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