Home Forums Articles How To's FAQ Register
Go Back   Xoutpost.com > BMW SAV Forums > X5 (E53) Forum
Arnott
User Name
Password
Member List Premier Membership Today's Posts New Posts

Xoutpost server transfer and maintenance is occurring....
Xoutpost is currently undergoing a planned server migration.... stay tuned for new developments.... sincerely, the management


Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 08-31-2008, 06:29 PM
Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Minnesota
Posts: 14
Hawkeyes is on a distinguished road
Cam Position Sensor SES Wont Go Away

I have the Peake R5/FCX-3 code reader & used to to diagnose the SES warning. Code came up as OF 72 (Camshaft position sensor, Cyl#5-8). So I bought the FEBI-Bilstein replacement - both of them - and replaced 2 old CPS with 2 new CPS. Now my SES light is back on & when I use the code reader it comes up as OF 71 72, meaning both Camshapft position sensors, Cyl#1-4 AND Cyl#5-8. When I reset the MIL it only goes away for a few miles, then comes back with same codes. I pulled the battery cable & let sit overnight to reset the computer, but the problem wont go away. It also seems a little sluggish off the line, but could be my imagination.

What did I do wrong? How do I get more information?

Thanks,
Hawkeyes

PS - Im absolutely certain the new CPS are the correct ones, it is the part number that supercedes old style smaller diameter core.
Reply With Quote

Sponsored Links

  #2  
Old 08-31-2008, 07:12 PM
Weasel's Avatar
Almost never on here anymore :(
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: New Orleans, La
Posts: 6,892
Weasel will become famous soon enough
The sluggishness off the line would be from different cam timing due to the DME's lack of seeing cam position. But as to why they aren't reading you might have to go into further diagnosis. You can always use the WDS link to pull up the wiring schematic and ohm check the wires from the sensors to the DME, and if you have access to a good scope meter check the signal, it would be basic analog squarewave.

But thats why I love the diagnostic equipment at the dealer, it gives you all the parameters the fault was set under and a better fault description. And has "test plans" attached to each fault to help determine the cause. But as long as you have a knowledge of the system and how it works, you can figure out what the causes and affects are to each problem. Alot of people treat the symptoms rather than the causes!
__________________
"When you do things right, people won't be sure you've done anything at all" (Bender, futurama)

You make something idiotproof, they'll make a better idiot


You think professional is expensive, just wait until you pay for amateur.

Never let your sense of morals prevent you from doing what is right.

Examine what is said, not who speaks.

X5 pics

RIP 4.6is.....

2003 4.6is
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 08-31-2008, 08:29 PM
Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: AZ
Posts: 31
GRIDLOCK is on a distinguished road
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hawkeyes
What did I do wrong?
You went cheap and bought Febi-Bilstein camshaft position sensors, which are highly known to be crap. Even when new, those Febi sensors are nothing but sh*t.

Contact Desert Motor Works ([email protected]), get yourself some OEM sensors, and be good-to-go.
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 09-01-2008, 12:23 AM
Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Austin, Tx!
Posts: 75
Chris_731 is on a distinguished road
Agreed, you only want to use factory OEM cam postion sensors.


Quote:
Originally Posted by GRIDLOCK
You went cheap and bought Febi-Bilstein camshaft position sensors, which are highly known to be crap. Even when new, those Febi sensors are nothing but sh*t.

Contact Desert Motor Works ([email protected]), get yourself some OEM sensors, and be good-to-go.
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 09-01-2008, 01:58 AM
Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Minnesota
Posts: 14
Hawkeyes is on a distinguished road
Quote:
Originally Posted by GRIDLOCK
You went cheap and bought Febi-Bilstein camshaft position sensors, which are highly known to be crap. Even when new, those Febi sensors are nothing but sh*t.

Contact Desert Motor Works ([email protected]), get yourself some OEM sensors, and be good-to-go.
Yeah that’s me alright, just a cheap f—ker. That’s why I always buy parts highly known to be crap & sh—t even when new.

The FEBI sensors were the only ones offered by AUTOHAUS AZ & I’ve always had good results with their parts for my Porsche, wife’s BMW and son’s VW.

Somehow I must have missed what everyone else knows – FEBI is crap. I’ll never buy another FEBI piece of s—t again! Nothing! If I wasn’t so stupid & cheap I’d have bought the right ones from the start.

BTW, the SES light went out. Never mind.

Hawk
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 09-01-2008, 02:33 AM
Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: AZ
Posts: 31
GRIDLOCK is on a distinguished road
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hawkeyes
Yeah that’s me alright, just a cheap f—ker. That’s why I always buy parts highly known to be crap & sh—t even when new.

The FEBI sensors were the only ones offered by AUTOHAUS AZ & I’ve always had good results with their parts for my Porsche, wife’s BMW and son’s VW.

Somehow I must have missed what everyone else knows – FEBI is crap. I’ll never buy another FEBI piece of s—t again! Nothing! If I wasn’t so stupid & cheap I’d have bought the right ones from the start.

BTW, the SES light went out. Never mind.

Hawk

Being a little harsh on yourself. Step away from the ledge and pop an Ambien.
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 09-01-2008, 08:16 AM
X5Flyboy's Avatar
Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: ID, and a world of my own
Posts: 2,271
X5Flyboy is on a distinguished road
I know just how he feels, too many times you learn this stuff after you've made the purchase, then someone "politely informs" you your choice was SH*T - let's ease up people - we're all here to HELP one another, just MHO
__________________
Mark _______________________________
2001 X5 4.4i topaz blue/sand Sport, complete Dinan S2 , hitch, V1, tint, BSW Stage 1, Alpine INA-W910BT
___________
Life is not fair!
You can't protect people from their own stupidity!
Laughter makes life worth living
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 09-01-2008, 11:58 AM
Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Minnesota
Posts: 14
Hawkeyes is on a distinguished road
mmm

Quote:
Originally Posted by GRIDLOCK
Being a little harsh on yourself. Step away from the ledge and pop an Ambien.
Nahh, the prison psychologist said anti-depressents make me violent. Something to do with not taking direction, problems with authority figures. Think I'll just go hunting.

Hawk
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 09-01-2008, 02:45 PM
Weasel's Avatar
Almost never on here anymore :(
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: New Orleans, La
Posts: 6,892
Weasel will become famous soon enough
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hawkeyes
Nahh, the prison psychologist said anti-depressents make me violent. Something to do with not taking direction, problems with authority figures. Think I'll just go hunting.

Hawk
AAAHHHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!
__________________
"When you do things right, people won't be sure you've done anything at all" (Bender, futurama)

You make something idiotproof, they'll make a better idiot


You think professional is expensive, just wait until you pay for amateur.

Never let your sense of morals prevent you from doing what is right.

Examine what is said, not who speaks.

X5 pics

RIP 4.6is.....

2003 4.6is
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 09-01-2008, 05:13 PM
Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: AZ
Posts: 31
GRIDLOCK is on a distinguished road
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hawkeyes
Nahh, the prison psychologist (would that be Bubba?) said anti-depressents make me violent. Something to do with not taking direction (google maps are good), problems with authority figures (you don't get along with your parents too?). Think I'll just go hunting (ahh, dinner is important).

Hawk
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On





All times are GMT -4. The time now is 07:48 AM.
vBulletin, Copyright 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd. SEO by vBSEO 3.6.0
© 2017 Xoutpost.com. All rights reserved. Xoutpost.com is a private enthusiast site not associated with BMW AG.
The BMW name, marks, M stripe logo, and Roundel logo as well as X3, X5 and X6 designations used in the pages of this Web Site are the property of BMW AG.
This web site is not sponsored or affiliated in any way with BMW AG or any of its subsidiaries.