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Old 04-26-2010, 01:24 PM
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Well.....I was climbing my jurassic soap box for this one and then I read Stan's post.......now I am stepping down because he very eloquently summed it up.

I am right on the same page as him!

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Well.....I was climbing my jurassic soap box for this one and then I read Stan's post.......now I am stepping down because he very eloquently summed it up.

I am right on the same page as him!

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Old 04-26-2010, 02:59 PM
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i have to agree with the positive replies,ive had my 2006 4.4 for 1 year.i live in northern alberta,and it was -50 this winter for 2 weeks and the x ran flawless.no frozen door locks,no blown valve cover gaskets,nothing.like any other brand some guys happen to get the one built on friday before a long weekend.there are thousands of x5 out there that run great,but remember this a forum that will make you think they all have big problems,thats what its for.
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For BMW fanboys the stuff that breaks down is the price to pay for the awesome ride, and the awesome handling through the curvy roads (as if they take their cars to the track every day)...

But for the realists, BMW quality sucks big time.
Not in a million years I will recommend any BMW to anyone, or purchase another one. I miss the BMW of the 80s, the rock solid 1988 325 that racked up 280K miles, and was running like a champ without constant fix-ups...

Good old days.

When BMW decided to make more of their cars, and sell it to the over leveraged US consumer who can mostly afford a BMW by subsidized lease payments or paying with loans that stretch to 5 years, while acting like a millionaire just because they are driving a BMW, BMW as a company stopped caring about quality, and started caring about selling the most amount of cars for the highest profit.

I do not blame BMW for taking such a route, because they as a company lost their core, and there was the credit credit give me more credit, put me in bigger debt customer that thought of driving a BMW as making them "someone" with a "social status" and BMW made the most profit out of it...

In any case...
Only my personal opinion.

I lol'd

A member of our board is saying that BMW X5 is a performance vehicle...



Great marketing department by BMW...
X5 a performance vehicle?

What performance? Driving a person from point A to point B? That can be done by millions of other cars/SUVs out there.
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Old 04-27-2010, 04:06 PM
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zumbalak..I dont know anyone that drives a BMW and "acts like a millionaire just because they are driving a BMW".. really? Millionaire huh? Pretty sure BMW is at or near the bottom of most millionaires lists of cars to possess and own...
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For BMW fanboys the stuff that breaks down is the price to pay for the awesome ride, and the awesome handling through the curvy roads (as if they take their cars to the track every day)...

But for the realists, BMW quality sucks big time.
Not in a million years I will recommend any BMW to anyone, or purchase another one. I miss the BMW of the 80s, the rock solid 1988 325 that racked up 280K miles, and was running like a champ without constant fix-ups...

Good old days.

When BMW decided to make more of their cars, and sell it to the over leveraged US consumer who can mostly afford a BMW by subsidized lease payments or paying with loans that stretch to 5 years, while acting like a millionaire just because they are driving a BMW, BMW as a company stopped caring about quality, and started caring about selling the most amount of cars for the highest profit.

I do not blame BMW for taking such a route, because they as a company lost their core, and there was the credit credit give me more credit, put me in bigger debt customer that thought of driving a BMW as making them "someone" with a "social status" and BMW made the most profit out of it...

In any case...
Only my personal opinion.

I lol'd

A member of our board is saying that BMW X5 is a performance vehicle...



Great marketing department by BMW...
X5 a performance vehicle?

What performance? Driving a person from point A to point B? That can be done by millions of other cars/SUVs out there.

does this mean i can tell all my friends and family that i'm a millionare?compared to other SUV's, the X5 is a performance vehicle. if BMW is such a joke in your eyes, why are u on this site and why do/did you own one?
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does this mean i can tell all my friends and family that i'm a millionare?compared to other SUV's, the X5 is a performance vehicle. if BMW is such a joke in your eyes, why are u on this site and why do/did you own one?
Compared to which other SUVs X5 is a performance vehicle again?

LOL

Any other SUV will do exactly the same that an X5 can do, while you are in the legal limit of things. All SUV's transport persons or people from point A to point B. X5 does the same thing as well. And honestly X5 is a crappy vehicle off road compared to many other SUV's so its so called performance measure is a moot.

BMW became a joke in my eyes with my X5 experience. Before then it was not. I gave you an example of the all time favorite BMW for me, a 1988 325 with extremely high mileage, where an X5 will dream of reaching without having to spend as much as the car's worth to fixes. Not an X5 but any current BMW will have extremely hard time reaching 200K miles without major money spent for repairs.

And for your fanboyism (just looks like that, as fanboys can not take any criticism of the BMW), I own an X5 thus I am here. In any case even if I did not own one, it would have been none of your business

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zumbalak..I dont know anyone that drives a BMW and "acts like a millionaire just because they are driving a BMW".. really? Millionaire huh? Pretty sure BMW is at or near the bottom of most millionaires lists of cars to possess and own...
Acting like one and being one are two different things.
There is a term for that; "poser"

Just my humble opinion
But if a person can not pay cash for the car he/she is purchasing comfortably (meaning that writing the check for the car will not cause any issue with his finances) he/she can not actually afford the car...

Again
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my business or not, it appears that you fall into the same category as just about all of us do....fanboys. whatever the term, we all seem to like some era of BMW's and have stayed true to the marque. yes, there are plenty more relaible vehicles out there, however many have missed what BMW is able to build into thiers. the feel and drivability are what keeps me coming back. i assume this will be your last newer BMW purchase and that's fine for you. as stated above, i never went into BMW ownership for their reliabilty or status, it was about the experience. good luck in your new car endeavors.
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Compared to which other SUVs X5 is a performance vehicle again?

LOL

Any other SUV will do exactly the same that an X5 can do, while you are in the legal limit of things. All SUV's transport persons or people from point A to point B. X5 does the same thing as well. And honestly X5 is a crappy vehicle off road compared to many other SUV's so its so called performance measure is a moot.

BMW became a joke in my eyes with my X5 experience. Before then it was not. I gave you an example of the all time favorite BMW for me, a 1988 325 with extremely high mileage, where an X5 will dream of reaching without having to spend as much as the car's worth to fixes. Not an X5 but any current BMW will have extremely hard time reaching 200K miles without major money spent for repairs.

And for your fanboyism (just looks like that, as fanboys can not take any criticism of the BMW), I own an X5 thus I am here. In any case even if I did not own one, it would have been none of your business

PS: google "30K millionaire"
You can't compare a car made in the 80's versus now--most cars now have more technology. And since an X5 is the same as all SUVs like you say---try making an emergency maneuver in a Tahoe at 50 mph in the rain vs. an X5. It's not about transporting--it's the safety and engineering.
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zumbalak..where you from man? Let me drop some knowledge on you. 1st BMW is an SAV not an SUV..So duh, yeah offroading isnt its strong suit. 2nd, Since every other SUV can do what an X5 can, why not just go with one of those? Seems to me that you're not too big on X5's, call me crazy..3rd is an X5M not a performance vehicle? what is it then? .....
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