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Old 11-12-2011, 05:56 PM
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Hmmm... Can't say for sure. I think it was the GKN Loebro, but I didn't get a close enough look at the pouches he had to be sure. I spoke to him again today, and he checked with several of his mechanic friends, and he says they all had the same story - "Man, I would have sworn I had some of that stuff, but when I checked, every pouch of grease I had was the regular CV joint grease." This is what leads me to belief this stuff, other than through the Pegasus Racing link that somebody posted earlier in this thread, is vaporware.
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I just called a local BMW dealership(East Bay BMW and Mini in Pleasanton, CA) and spoke with a person in parts to ask if they sold the cv joint grease separately.
He said the grease is only sold as part of the cv boot repair kit.
When I asked if he knows whether or not the outer and inner boot kits contain different greases, he said as far as he knows from the picture (I guess on his parts screen) it's the same grease that's pictured in the outer and inner cv joint kits.
He said he has several of the outer kits ($105), but inner ($88) has to be special ordered.
When I told him that I read on the internet that the greases are different, he put me on hold to talk with a technician who told him that the tech replaced a front axle/drive shaft about an hour ago, and used the same grease for both inner and outer cv joints.

Could it be that from BMW factory during assembly they use a different grease for the inner cv joint, and then when it has to be replaced they just use one type for both outer and inner?

Can someone who has bought and placed the inner cv joint boot repair kit, the GKN Loebro brand, please chime in here and tell us if the greases seemed different?

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Old 11-12-2011, 07:08 PM
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Interesting, but I'm not surprised. What the technician did may be OK, and I suspect it's very common, but from what I've read, it isn't optimum. However, it's hard to say how many people go to the trouble of somehow getting their hands on the correct grease, especially considering that it's very expensive, to do this repair. I suspect not many...

Wow, I thought BMW of Austin was expensive - $105 for an outer kit is downright extortionist. I got mine through Pelican for $24.50 apiece. No wonder we call them "stealers."
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Old 11-13-2011, 02:21 PM
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Hi guys, I've been traveling, I'm out of the country, ok here's what I saw. When I replaced my my outer boot using the inner boot method, the lube ran out like oil, not grease. So the inner boot grease (more like a lubricant than a grease) is definitely different. Now did I use the Pegasus grease...ahhhhh, no! Here's what I used, see link below, it's not thick at all, very light weight, probably lighter than the supplied outer boot grease, bought it at my local O'Reilly's parts store.

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Cool, glad to see you found a substitute. I knew there had to be a reasonable compromise between spending $46 on a tube of internet-order grease, and using the outer joint moly-based grease (which is just plain wrong, although commonly done, it appears). I'll check to see if my local O'Reilly's carries this stuff. Seems like I saw it there yesterday... Thanks!
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Well I wouldn't say it's an approved substitute, but I look at this way. If for some reason the tripod bearing were to fail I'll just replace the entire axle, which comes with both new boots installed and ready to go. The axles are not expensive at all, so that would be my next course of action, I, like you, was not going to pay $40 for some grease/lubricant and then have to wait for it to be delivered.
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OK, I got the CRC grease, slopped as much of it as I could onto the joint and its cavity as I could, wrestled the axle back onto the strut (just me and my floor jack - no assistant), but I'm not having any luck crimping the CV boot clamps. Here's the crimping tool I'm using:

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It seems to be the right type of tool, as its "teeth" fit neatly against the edges of the protrusion on the clamp. I'm a strong, fit guy, but I'm pressing on this thing with everything I've got, and I can't get it to budge - not a micron of crimping motion. The metal on these clamps is very hard - almost seems like you'd need some sort of power tool to crimp them. I haven't heard of anyone else having trouble with this step, so I'm wondering if I'm using the right tool. Thoughts?
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Yeah I just filled the boot up with a whole tube of the stuff and reassembled everything, I did it by myself also and had no trouble at all. You have the same pliers that I have, so I don't know why you can't crimp the band on. As you said, the metal on those bands where the hump is is pretty tough, now you see why I said don't waste your time trying to reuse the old bands. You must be doing something wrong, crimping the bands was no big deal at all, and I'm no big guy myself. Can you post a pic of the bands you're using, where did you get them?
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Hmm... They're the bands that came with the GKN Leobro kit. They're on the car, so I can't get a good picture on them, although I suppose I could try if that would help. As I said, the metal is very thick and heavy-duty. When I put the crimpers around the raised nub that needs to be crimped, the handles are a little too far apart to be able to get my whole hand on them, so I can't grip them as tightly as I'd like, but even so, I can exert quite a bit of force, but they're just mocking me. It's like trying to bend a piece of rebar with a pair of needle nose pliers. Crap. I wonder if there's such a thing as a "power crimper."
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Sorry, I thought you were talking about the inner boot replacement bands. Regardless, they are still not hard to crimp, I put the bands on where it was easiest for me to grip the pliers. As you squeeze the pliers the little metal thing in the middle of the pliers pushes out, that's what makes the dimple in the band hump. You want to be careful and squeeze with slow, even pressure, if not your hump will come out uneven.
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