Pentosin Transmission oil

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Originally Posted by mysweetx5

The bottom line after many hours of researching about BMW's "Lifetime" Transmission fluid.
In the years before the early 1990s, BMW never had "Lifetime" fluid in their vehicles.
Over the course of time, BMW changed their policy, due to increasing competition from
other car manufacturers to be more competitive with costs and initial customer ownership.
Thus came about the "Lifetime" fluids or components on certain cars and equipment.

I don't disagree that BMW (as well as many other manufacturers) moved to lifetime fluids, but you are ignoring the fact that both transmission design and fluid specs changed during those decades.

The consensus though is that the transmission fluid should be changed at some point
and is not "Lifetime". Depending on your driving style, climate and other independent factors
you should change your transmission fluid anywhere between 50k and 100k miles.
Sure, you could drive your car until the transmission fails, which may be over 100k miles,
it maybe be less or your transmission might never fail. The point is that your transmission
fluid is not "Lifetime" and should be changed.

There is not a consensus. I agree that the transmission may fail, but why do you believe that changing the fluid prematurely will extend that life? Failure does not equate to wear out.

You list a number of alternate fluids, but if one is going to change it to reduce the risk of failure, why increase the risk by using universal fluids that don't meet the ZF spec? When companies such as Quaker State and Amsoil say that their universal fluids can be used in most LT71141 applications, they don't usually meet either spec. Sure they may work. But if one is quoting ZF service docs to back up a position then why not follow them and use a legitimate fluid?

Most problems if any that occur, are due to improper procedures or transmissions that already have problems and by changing the ATF you can not turn back time on the damage which has already occurred. Thus, people tend to blame their transmission problem on their ATF change.

Yes, changing the fluid on a transmission with problems isn't likely to fix anything. But you are ignoring the transmissions with no problems that only exhibit symptoms after changing the fluid. High detergent levels in the new fluid, and viscosity that is often lower, can precipitate a failure. That risk has to be balanced against the benefits of new fluid, remembering that the data does not support the premise that fluid breakdown causes most of the failures.

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Oil Reference Guide


ZF Transmission Part Number

OE Transmission Number OE Mfg. Transmission Type Plate Cover Oil Grade Oil Capacity
1055 000 007 24 00 1 219 043 BMW Black Shell LA 2634 13.5L
1055 000 010 24 00 1 422 506 BMW Black Shell LA 2634 13.5L
1055 000 029 24 00 1 422 506 BMW Black Shell LA 2634 13.5L
1055 000 011 24 00 1 422 508 BMW Black Shell LA 2634 13.0L
1055 000 030 24 00 1 422 508 BMW Black Shell LA 2634 13.0L
1055 000 015 24 00 1 421 812 BMW Black Shell LA 2634 13.5L
1055 000 026 24 00 1 422 477 BMW Green Esso LT 71141 13.0L
1055 000 016 24 00 1 422 510 BMW Green Esso LT 71141 13.0L
1055 000 031 24 00 1 422 510 BMW Green Esso LT 71141 13.0L
1055 000 017 24 00 1 422 512 BMW Green Esso LT 71141 13.0L
1055 000 032 24 00 1 422 512 BMW Green Esso LT 71141 13.0L
1056 000 087 24 00 1 421 215 BMW Black
Dexron II-D

10.8L
1056 000 088 24 00 1 421 412 BMW Black Dexron II-D
10.15L
1056 000 097 24 00 1 421 947 BMW Green Esso LT 71141 10.15L
Mercedes-Benz Oil Reference Guide

In accordance with spare part number of vehicle manufacturer:

Esso ATF LT 71141 in acc. with ZF Order Specification ZFB 838

Mercedes-Benz Oil Number: A 001 989 2203



5HP18 In Accordance with BMW oil pan fill aperture label:

1. Without oil pan fill aperture label
2.With oil pan fill aperture label (green plugs)
Esso ATF LT 71141in acc. with ZF Order Specification ZFB 838
=> BMW Oil No.:8 322 940 7807

Warning: use of incorrect lubricant can cause transmission failure.

5HP30 In accordance with spare part number of vehicle manufacturer:

1.Shell ATF LA-2634 in acc. with ZF Order Specification ZFB 824
=> BMW Oil No. 8 322 940 7765 (oil pan fill aperture level)
2. Esso ATF LT 71141 in acc. with ZF Order Specification AFB 838
=> BMW Oil No. 8 322 940 7807 (oil pan fill aperture label)
=> Rolls Royce Oil No. : PL31493 PA

Warning: use of incorrect lubricant can cause transmission failure.
4HP20, 5HP19FL,
5HP19FLA (1), 5HP19HL,
5HP19HLA (1) 5HP24, 5HP24A (1) In accordance with spare part number of vehicle manufacturer:
Esso ATF LT 71141 in acc. with ZF Order Specification ZFB 838

=>Audi Oil No. G 052 162A1
=>BMW Oil No. 8 322 940 7807
=>Citrogen Oil No. Z 000 169 756
=>Jaguar Oil No. JLM 20238
=>Mercedes Benz Oil No. A 001 989 2203
=>Peugot Oil No. Z 000 169 756
=>Porsche Oil No. 999 917 547 00


(1) Fill any differential and transfer box with gear oil Burmah SAF-AG4
(Audi/VW oil No. N052 145 000, Porsche oil no. 999.917.545.00).

ZF Oil Part Number
Oil Type

0670 090 166 Esso ATF LT 711741
0670 090 148 Shell ATF LA 2634