Torque converter failing...

[weso09]

no wine in mine just the shuddering but all fixed going great

[Ghost-Flame]

Originally Posted by SlickGT1

Lol thanks for the offer. It might work, but the tranny would be messed up hot. If you ever come out to Brooklyn, stop by my garage, way more comfortable place to work, versus a parking lot. I plan on giving it a go hopefully this weekend. All I have to do is back it up some ramps and I'm in place. I am confident of the process to do this without the GT1 now, so its just a matter of having the time apart from work and family.

P.S. This is my garage fridge.


P.P.S. This is my Garage (minus the clutter that's in this renovation pic)


So come by if you want to wrench. Even if on just my car, lol.

Nice garage, my garage is very functional and heated but I don't have that fancy floor! Yuengling, My favorite!!! That looks like enough for me.

[SlickGT1]

Yea garage is still a work in progress. I still have an entire wall of cabinets to build, then two work benches. Then need all the doors. Still need to get 5 light fixtures. I already have 5 double tube fluorescent in there. Which is nice when working on car, but lacking light when working on anything around the perimeter.

Yea so much to do, so little time.

[bbultman]

Jgood, I have a 4.6is with 142k miles. I have the exact same issues going on - the incremental rpm steps, the throttle oscillation, an occasional slight shudder under very light acceleration. I was hoping to find something in the valvebody and have been talking with ZF North America. I ruled out fluid temp and weak engine coils. My next assignment was to monitor TC lockup percentage to see if the TC was being commanded or unlocking on its own but I need a scan tool. The more I drive it and read other forums, I'm starting to think the TC is just getting plain wore out. And when I read your post, it emphasizes that. Did you have the valvebody or solenoid rebuilt/replaced? Any metal shavings in the pan? If I can be confident that a TC replacement will fix it, I'm good with that. It sounds like it worked well for you. However, I've also heard the same issues being fixed by a simple fluid/filter change. Did you try that first?

[jgood]

Originally Posted by bbultman

Jgood, I have a 4.6is with 142k miles. I have the exact same issues going on - the incremental rpm steps, the throttle oscillation, an occasional slight shudder under very light acceleration. I was hoping to find something in the valvebody and have been talking with ZF North America. I ruled out fluid temp and weak engine coils. My next assignment was to monitor TC lockup percentage to see if the TC was being commanded or unlocking on its own but I need a scan tool. The more I drive it and read other forums, I'm starting to think the TC is just getting plain wore out. And when I read your post, it emphasizes that. Did you have the valvebody or solenoid rebuilt/replaced? Any metal shavings in the pan? If I can be confident that a TC replacement will fix it, I'm good with that. It sounds like it worked well for you. However, I've also heard the same issues being fixed by a simple fluid/filter change. Did you try that first?

I spent a few hours talking to the guy at the transmission shop. We figured the best course of action was to pull the trans pan, and go from there... If it was filled with metal shavings, he was doing a full rebuild. If it was clean, he was just doing the converter. He said in his experience, just flushing it won't do anything, at least not with the symptoms I had.

I tried to hint at my concerns of a valve body issue, and he said although it could be, the symptoms I have are exactly what a failing torque converter would have, so it wouldn't make a lot of sense to go the valve body rebuild route right off the bat.

The day came to pull the pan, and it was perfectly clean, hence the reason he just swapped the converter, did a flush, and called it a day

Considering our identical mileage and symptoms, I'd have to recommend the same course of action for you. Just be sure you don't have any engine/trans codes, as they may hint at another problem. Mine didn't have any.

[bbultman]

There are no codes. When I had my oil changed at my local indy, they pulled all codes hard and soft and nothing came up. I'll probably start talking to them about getting it in there for the TC. Hopefully that's all it is. Thx for the info!

[02x592]

"I had a noticeable shudder while accelerating occasionally, and also a noticeable 'stepping' up in RPM's as I was accelerating (RPM's would jump up 200-300, then stop, then jump up 200-300, then stop, etc...)"

Shit, mine started doing this a few weeks ago at 131K. The shudder is rare but it's there and I constantly notice the RPM step-up between 1,600-1,900RPM on light throttle.

Great. I have zero trouble codes as well.

[jgood]

Originally Posted by 02x592

"I had a noticeable shudder while accelerating occasionally, and also a noticeable 'stepping' up in RPM's as I was accelerating (RPM's would jump up 200-300, then stop, then jump up 200-300, then stop, etc...)"

Shit, mine started doing this a few weeks ago at 131K. The shudder is rare but it's there and I constantly notice the RPM step-up between 1,600-1,900RPM on light throttle.

Great. I have zero trouble codes as well.

Identical to my symptoms. Hey man, I got mine fixed for $700 out the door. A trans rebuild is $3k+. If I were you, I'd be happy...

[02x592]

No I'd rather have that than a transmission blow up, which is why it's going to get fixed ASAP before it takes that along with it.

[jgood]

Yeah, that was one thing the guy pointed out to me, I needed to get it taken care of ASAP, and the trans needed thoroughly flushed. So make sure you don't just get a drain and fill.