BMW is going to replace engine ---misfiring issue

[kashmir]

this is the follow up thread for the engine misfiring issue that i had created about a month ago. As i mentioned in that thread, BMW had replaced intermediate levers twice so far without any resolution of the problem. They have , now, agreed to replace the engine. Initially, my dealer was suggesting that it was not a good idea to put a new engine in a 2005 x5. They told me that BMW would offer me $3000 towards a new purchase. I insisted that the engine be replaced as the cost of engine replacement would be lot more or the actual cost of repair should be put in towards new purchase. I was told that it would cost BMW $13k to replace then engine. Today, service manager told me that BMW would not contribute towards new purchase. engine replacement would be my only option. I am sensing foul play by the dealer here. Is there anyway I can contact BMW directly regarding this issue. I really dont think it is a good idea to put a new engine in an almost 8 year old truck.

really need help here.

thanks very much

[brokenbmx06]

1. Get new engine
2. Sell new engine
3. Profit

[kashmir]

good idea but how will I drive it without an engine

Originally Posted by brokenbmx06

1. Get new engine
2. Sell new engine
3. Profit

[ake53]

a new used engine is about 1,500...
junkyard hookup

pay an indy to swap it... about 1,000

and hey new used engine under 3k.
sometimes need to use brain more than ears at dealer.

update picked up my x5 from indy. they use a snap on 12k scanner... hard to use and supposibly cleared codes. I come home, connect DIS and find a few codes like secondary air. clear all and motor runs good again.

[nra4.8is]

Your truck is out of warranty, unless it is CPO.... If its out, it's out

[kashmir]

it is CPO....

Originally Posted by nra4.8is

Your truck is out of warranty, unless it is CPO.... If its out, it's out

[X5SND]

How is it foul play? It's the dealer....it's all a numbers game for them. I could be wrong on this, but if the dealer replaces the engine under the CPO warranty, doesnt BMW pay for it? Where as giving you 13k off a new purchase would come off the dealers bottom line, as they would be undoubtedly selling a vehicle at a loss...

I'm not sure what I would do in your case....but asking them to give you 13k off a new purchase because that's the cost for the engine replacement on a vehicle you didn't buy new (and is pushing 8 years) is somewhat unreasonable on your part, IMO of course.

[kashmir]

I am not asking the dealer to give me a $13K discount. Initially, I was told by the dealer that BMW would pay $3k towards a new purchase. I am asking that BMW (not the dealer) contribute actual amount that BMW would incur in replacing the engine towards new purchase. this would come from BMW and not from dealers bottom line.

Originally Posted by X5SND

How is it foul play? It's the dealer....it's all a numbers game for them. I could be wrong on this, but if the dealer replaces the engine under the CPO warranty, doesnt BMW pay for it? Where as giving you 13k off a new purchase would come off the dealers bottom line, as they would be undoubtedly selling a vehicle at a loss...

I'm not sure what I would do in your case....but asking them to give you 13k off a new purchase because that's the cost for the engine replacement on a vehicle you didn't buy new (and is pushing 8 years) is somewhat unreasonable on your part, IMO of course.

[TwinTurboGTR]

I am missing something here. There is something I am not understanding. So initially your dealer gave you an offer of $3K towards a new vehicle purchase. Now with this offer, would you be able to trade the X5 in and combine the total towards the new purchase?

Now later, you are saying the dealer withdrew their initial offer and was instructed by BMW NA to give you a replacement motor which is in the ballpark of $13K. (I actually think it is more than that. I think a new motor is $16K if I'm not mistaken) and then the labor on top of that. SO your total could be around $18K to $20K for a new motor. But you are hesitant for them to put a new motor in. What is your concern? Why do you think it is a bad idea to put a new motor in a 7 year old SAV?

In my honest opinion, if BMWNA is offering to put a new motor in, I would run with it. I don't know if you have a 4.8 or 4.4 motor but it is a new motor! No matter how many miles you have on it. Now could their be glitches when putting in a new motor? Sure, but you are under CPO and the motor will come with a warranty. Any problems relating to it will be fixed within the time frame.

If you chose not to keep it after it is fixed, you can sell it. Take the cash and buy another vehicle.

Enlighten me because I am not understanding.

[kashmir]

Yes they did offer $3k towards new purchase initially and were suggesting that it wouldnt be a good idea to put a new engine in an old SAV. now the service manager is telling me that the only option that I have is to have the engine replaced.

my concern is that this is going to be somewhat of a waste. I will not keep it for more than a few years. They are also telling me that i would need $2.5k of additional repairs( not under warranty).. if i look at the numbers, I will be better off with a new purchase that will come with warranty for at least 3 years.

i have 4.4 engine

Originally Posted by TwinTurboGTR

I am missing something here. There is something I am not understanding. So initially your dealer gave you an offer of $3K towards a new vehicle purchase. Now with this offer, would you be able to trade the X5 in and combine the total towards the new purchase?

Now later, you are saying the dealer withdrew their initial offer and was instructed by BMW NA to give you a replacement motor which is in the ballpark of $13K. (I actually think it is more than that. I think a new motor is $16K if I'm not mistaken) and then the labor on top of that. SO your total could be around $18K to $20K for a new motor. But you are hesitant for them to put a new motor in. What is your concern? Why do you think it is a bad idea to put a new motor in a 7 year old SAV?

In my honest opinion, if BMWNA is offering to put a new motor in, I would run with it. I don't know if you have a 4.8 or 4.4 motor but it is a new motor! No matter how many miles you have on it. Now could their be glitches when putting in a new motor? Sure, but you are under CPO and the motor will come with a warranty. Any problems relating to it will be fixed within the time frame.

If you chose not to keep it after it is fixed, you can sell it. Take the cash and buy another vehicle.

Enlighten me because I am not understanding.