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07-24-2013, 11:46 AM
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the facelifted 4.8 should have regular heavy-duty alternator and not watercooled - the 4.6iS had a watercooled one... the battery/alternator/regulator issues can fire up many codes in the system along with other symptoms, like radio cut in/out, AC going dead or full blast... normally, each of those symptoms has its own culprit but when they happen together, the electrical system is to be checked... the ABS module is known for losing its internal contacts in extreme temperatures - usually when it is overheating, even though on mine, it was -40 degrees ambient when i got the trifeca problems for the first time on the 4.6iS so, you have possible issue with the ABS module, one or more of the wheel sensors, alternator, regulator and battery... of course, you can throw parts at the problem, and it may fix it... I would suggest get a reading of the codes using the proper software that actually spells out the issue, gives you the engine RPM at the time of issue, the exact mileage when the code was set, so you can relate to the timing of the code, it could be a 2 year old code you are looking at or a 2 hour old... for example, i attached a shadow error report from my car - this is not a complete report from a single module, just an overall report. With a specific module in focus, you can interrogate it to get more specific information... S H A D O W M E M O R Y R E P O R T --------------------------------------- Date: 05/11/13 00:11:22 ECU: D_EGS JobStatus: OKAY Variant: GS19A ------------------------------------------------------------- RESULT: 2 errors in error memory ! ------------------------------------------------------------- 20760 InfoCounter1 - EGS-Reset Warning: F_HFK doesn´t exist in result record 1 ! Warning: F_UW_ANZ doesn´t exist in result record 1 ! Warning: F_ART_ANZ doesn´t exist in result record 1 ! Errorcode: 51 18 78 ------------------------------------------------------------- 20761 Reset at Bosch SW-Part Warning: F_HFK doesn´t exist in result record 2 ! Warning: F_UW_ANZ doesn´t exist in result record 2 ! Warning: F_ART_ANZ doesn´t exist in result record 2 ! Errorcode: 51 19 24 ================================================== =========== Variant: LCM_IV 9 Error in information memory Info registration 1 : 0x003C: communication error to rain/light sensor <<<<!!! Error accurances: 5 Error not present Error code: 3C 05 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Info registration 2 : 0x0057: level control system <<<<!!! Error accurances: 4 Error not present Error code: 57 04 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Info registration 3 : 0x005B: level washer fluid <<<<!!! Error accurances: 7 Error present Error code: 5B 27 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Info registration 4 : 0x0060: engine oil level, thermal sensor TOG <<<<!!! Error accurances: 22 Error not present Error code: 60 16 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Info registration 5 : 0x0062: seat allocation recognition-airbag ecu-error <<<<!!! Error accurances: 9 Error not present Error code: 62 09 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Info registration 6 : 0x007A: front left side light defect <<<<!!! Error accurances: 11 Error present Error code: 7A 2B ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Info registration 7 : 0x007B: front right side light defect <<<<!!! Error accurances: 26 Error present Error code: 7B 3A ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Info registration 8 : 0x007F: left fog light defect <<<<!!! Error accurances: 9 Error not present Error code: 7F 09 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Info registration 9 : 0x0099: lights for lisence plate defect <<<<!!! Error accurances: 11 Error present Error code: 99 2B ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ ================================================== ================================== Ecu : D_0066 SYS-0008: JOB NOT FOUND ================================================== ================================== Variant: SD_DS2 10 Error in information memory Info registration 1 : 0x0044: Dauerhafte Unterspannung <<<<!!! Error accurances: 4 Sporadic error Error code: 44 04 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Info registration 2 : 0x0040: SoS Manuelle Dachbewegung <<<<!!! Error accurances: 5 Sporadic error Error code: 40 85 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Info registration 3 : 0x0042: Initialisierung Diagnose <<<<!!! Error accurances: 1 Sporadic error Error code: 42 01 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Info registration 4 : 0x0047: Anzahl aller Kodierungen <<<<!!! Error accurances: 5 Sporadic error Error code: 47 05 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Info registration 5 : 0x000A: SHD Kennlinie Heben <<<<!!! Error accurances: 1 Sporadic error Error code: 0A 41 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Info registration 6 : 0x0009: SoS Kennlinie Schieben <<<<!!! Error accurances: 1 Sporadic error Error code: 09 81 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Info registration 7 : 0x0009: SHD Kennlinie Schieben <<<<!!! Error accurances: 1 Sporadic error Error code: 09 41 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Info registration 8 : 0x0008: SoS Positionsverlust <<<<!!! Error accurances: 1 Sporadic error Error code: 08 81 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Info registration 9 : 0x0008: SHD Positionsverlust <<<<!!! Error accurances: 1 Sporadic error Error code: 08 41 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Info registration 10 : 0x000A: SoS Kennlinie Heben <<<<!!! Error accurances: 1 Sporadic error Error code: 0A 81 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ ================================================== ================================== Variant: ZKE3_GM6 5 Error in information memory Info registration 1 : 0x00A3: unknown info-location <<<<!!! Error accurances: 1 Sporadic error ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Info registration 2 : 0x0080: DWA-Alarm : Clamp R <<<<!!! Error accurances: 5 Sporadic error ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Info registration 3 : 0x008B: DWA-Alarm : interior security <<<<!!! Error accurances: 7 Static error ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Info registration 4 : 0x0094: power up from the PM FT <<<<!!! Error accurances: 1 Sporadic error ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Info registration 5 : 0x0095: power up from the PM BT <<<<!!! Error accurances: 1 Sporadic error ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ ================================================== ================================== Variant: SZM38 >>>>>>>>>> No error found <<<<<<<<<<< ================================================== ================================== Ecu : D_00C8 SYS-0008: JOB NOT FOUND ================================================== ================================== Variant: VM5IBUS >>>>>>>>>> No error found <<<<<<<<<<< ================================================== ================================== Variant: NAVMK4_2 1 Error in information memory Info registration 1 : 0x0020: unknown Error code at Shadow memory <<<<!!! Error accurances: 211 ================================================== ================================== Ecu : D_00BB SYS-0012: IDENTIFICATION ERROR ================================================== ================================== ################################################## ############# This content will stored temporary temporär in ..\inpa\sgdat\na_is.tmp ################################################## ############# 
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07-24-2013, 02:14 PM
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 I don't know what your repair budget is but I wouldn't be purchasing an alternator to find out it wasn't bad. Especially when I could have troubleshooted to know it wasn't.
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07-24-2013, 04:20 PM
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here are some error files from another E53 - just to give you idea what information can be presented to you:
E R R O R M E M O R Y --------------------------------------- Date: 12.06.2013 09:24:38 ECU: GS19A JobStatus: OKAY Variant: GS19A ------------------------------------------------------------- RESULT: 3 error in error memory ! ------------------------------------------------------------- 5014 U_Batt, Gearbox P1891 System Voltage High Input Error counter: 5 Logistic counter: 33 1. Umweltsatz Mileage 179864 km Engine speed 1760.00 rpm Battery Voltage 16.56 Volt supply voltage DR/MV 16.48 Volt Turbine speed (rpm) 1600.00 rpm 2. Umweltsatz Mileage 179864 km Engine speed 704.00 rpm Battery Voltage 17.36 Volt supply voltage DR/MV 17.28 Volt Turbine speed (rpm) 608.00 rpm 3. Umweltsatz Mileage 179920 km Engine speed 1824.00 rpm Battery Voltage 16.72 Volt supply voltage DR/MV 16.64 Volt Turbine speed (rpm) 1408.00 rpm U_Batt bigger than nominal Value Test conditions fulfilled Error not present now, but already stored Error would not cause a warning lamp to light up Error code: 50 14 21 18 91 00 00 05 21 57 D3 37 CF CE 32 57 D3 16 D9 D8 13 57 DA 39 D1 D0 2C ------------------------------------------------------------- 51AD Message (Wheel Speed) from the DSC is missing Error counter: 5 Logistic counter: 33 1. Umweltsatz Mileage 179864 km condition WK torque converter-clutch open 0-n Type of Shift Type of Shift 3 after 3 0-n Output Speed 736.00 rpm Turbine speed (rpm) 1120.00 rpm average wheel speed powered wheels 0.00 km/h 2. Umweltsatz Mileage 179864 km condition WK torque converter-clutch open 0-n Type of Shift Type of Shift NPR to D 0-n Output Speed 0.00 rpm Turbine speed (rpm) 704.00 rpm average wheel speed powered wheels 0.00 km/h 3. Umweltsatz Mileage 179920 km condition WK torque converter-clutch open 0-n Type of Shift Type of Shift 3 after 3 0-n Output Speed 992.00 rpm Turbine speed (rpm) 1504.00 rpm average wheel speed powered wheels 0.00 km/h Wheel Speed is not plausible to Power-take-off/Turbine Test conditions fulfilled Error not present now, but already stored Error would not cause a warning lamp to light up Error code: 51 AD 28 00 00 00 00 05 21 57 D3 03 17 23 00 57 D3 17 00 16 00 57 DA 03 1F 2F 00 ------------------------------------------------------------- 4F7A Message from the LDM is wrong Error counter: 4 Logistic counter: 33 1. Umweltsatz Mileage 179864 km condition WK torque converter-clutch open 0-n Type of Shift Type of Shift 3 after 3 0-n actual engine torque 16.00 Nm Output Speed 640.00 rpm Turbine speed (rpm) 992.00 rpm 2. Umweltsatz Mileage 179864 km condition WK torque converter-clutch open 0-n Type of Shift Type of Shift 3 after 3 0-n actual engine torque 76.00 Nm Output Speed 1248.00 rpm Turbine speed (rpm) 1920.00 rpm 3. Umweltsatz Mileage 179920 km condition WK torque converter-clutch open 0-n Type of Shift Type of Shift 3 after 3 0-n actual engine torque -28.00 Nm Output Speed 640.00 rpm Turbine speed (rpm) 960.00 rpm not used Test conditions fulfilled Error not present now, but already stored Error would not cause a warning lamp to light up Error code: 4F 7A 21 00 00 00 00 04 21 57 D3 03 1D 14 1F 57 D3 03 2C 27 3C 57 DA 03 12 14 1E ================================================== =========== and here is more from the tranny: I N F O R M A T I O N M E M O R Y --------------------------------------- Date: 12.06.2013 09:26:57 ECU: GS19A JobStatus: OKAY Variant: GS19A ------------------------------------------------------------- RESULT: 2 error in error memory ! ------------------------------------------------------------- 5114 ???? IS_LESEN_DETAIL: JobStatus: ERROR_TABLE ------------------------------------------------------------- 4F86 Ratio-Monitoring Symptom Circuit-Monitoring Error counter: 2 1. Umweltsatz Mileage 155928 km condition WK torque converter-clutch open 0-n Type of Shift Type of Shift 2 after 1 0-n actual engine torque 112.00 Nm Gearbox Oil Temperature 55.00 degrees C Output Speed 224.00 rpm 2. Umweltsatz Mileage 169104 km condition WK torque converter-clutch open 0-n Type of Shift Type of Shift 2 after 1 0-n actual engine torque 100.00 Nm Gearbox Oil Temperature 83.00 degrees C Output Speed 160.00 rpm Symptom Circuit-Monitoring Test conditions not yet fulfilled Error not present now, but already stored Error would not cause a warning lamp to light up Error code: 4F 86 38 02 4C 23 11 35 5F 07 52 92 11 32 7B 05 00 00 00 00 00 00 ================================================== =========== and here is something about the engine - note: it talks about the voltage and generator failure... remember, just because it says something, it does not mean it is broken, it could be a secondary symptom to a primary problem: E R R O R M E M O R Y --------------------------------------- Date: 12.06.2013 09:17:29 ECU: ME9N62 JobStatus: OKAY Variant: ME9N62 ------------------------------------------------------------- RESULT: 9 error in error memory ! ------------------------------------------------------------- 278A CDKTUM - Ambient temperature Error counter: 75 Logistic counter: 40 1. Umweltsatz Mileage 161160 km Engine temperature (tmot) 46.50 degrees C Intake air temperature (tans) 22.50 degrees C Ambient temperature (tumg) 15.75 Degrees C Supply voltage (ub) 14.04 V 2. Umweltsatz Mileage 166424 km Engine temperature (tmot) 96.75 degrees C Intake air temperature (tans) 5.25 degrees C Ambient temperature (tumg) 5.25 Degrees C Supply voltage (ub) 14.04 V 3. Umweltsatz Mileage 172424 km Engine temperature (tmot) 96.75 degrees C Intake air temperature (tans) 5.25 degrees C Ambient temperature (tumg) 5.25 Degrees C Supply voltage (ub) 14.04 V No signal or value Test conditions fulfilled Error present now and already stored Error would not cause a warning lamp to light up Diagnostic active Cycle flag set Error code: 27 8A 64 05 00 00 4B 28 4E B1 7E 5E 55 95 51 43 C1 47 47 95 54 31 C1 47 47 95 ------------------------------------------------------------- 27DA CDKDGEN - generator failure Error counter: 3 Logistic counter: 29 1. Umweltsatz Mileage 179488 km Supply voltage (ub) 11.87 V Generator voltage (ugen) 14.60 V Engine speed (nmot) 1480.00 /min Load signal recommended by generator (dffgen) 6.27 % 2. Umweltsatz Mileage 179864 km Supply voltage (ub) 11.96 V Generator voltage (ugen) 14.60 V Engine speed (nmot) 680.00 /min Load signal recommended by generator (dffgen) 9.41 % 3. Umweltsatz Mileage 179880 km Supply voltage (ub) 11.30 V Generator voltage (ugen) 14.60 V Engine speed (nmot) 680.00 /min Load signal recommended by generator (dffgen) 12.55 % Implausible signal or value Test conditions fulfilled Error not present now, but already stored Error would not cause a warning lamp to light up Diagnostic active Cycle flag set Error in debounce phase Error code: 27 DA 28 25 00 00 03 1D 57 A4 7E 28 25 10 57 D3 7F 28 11 18 57 D5 78 28 11 20 ------------------------------------------------------------- 2789 CDKSWE - Bad way detection Error counter: 3 Logistic counter: 34 1. Umweltsatz Mileage 179864 km Engine speed (nmot) 680.00 /min Relative air filling (rl) 27.75 % Vehicle speed (vfzg_u) 0.00 km/h Time after start (tnse_u) 51.20 s 2. Umweltsatz Mileage 179920 km Engine speed (nmot) 1640.00 /min Relative air filling (rl) 52.50 % Vehicle speed (vfzg_u) 0.00 km/h Time after start (tnse_u) 25.60 s 3. Umweltsatz Mileage 179920 km Engine speed (nmot) 2360.00 /min Relative air filling (rl) 17.25 % Vehicle speed (vfzg_u) 0.00 km/h Time after start (tnse_u) 25.60 s No signal or value Test conditions fulfilled Error not present now, but already stored Error would not cause a warning lamp to light up Diagnostic active Cycle flag set Error in debounce phase Error code: 27 89 24 25 00 00 03 22 57 D3 11 25 00 02 57 DA 29 46 00 01 57 DA 3B 17 00 01 ------------------------------------------------------------- 2862 CDKDVULV - VVT-Power supply P1055 VVT-Supply Voltage Control Motor High Input (Bank 1) Error counter: 4 Logistic counter: 34 1. Umweltsatz Mileage 179864 km Engine speed (nmot) 1280.00 /min Supply voltage (ub) 18.18 V Engine temperature (tmot) 96.75 degrees C Ambient temperature (tumg) 29.25 Degrees C 2. Umweltsatz Mileage 179864 km Engine speed (nmot) 1440.00 /min Supply voltage (ub) 18.09 V Engine temperature (tmot) 96.75 degrees C Ambient temperature (tumg) 29.25 Degrees C 3. Umweltsatz Mileage 179920 km Engine speed (nmot) 1920.00 /min Supply voltage (ub) 17.90 V Engine temperature (tmot) 99.00 degrees C Ambient temperature (tumg) 29.25 Degrees C Signal or value above threshold Test conditions fulfilled Error not present now, but already stored Error would cause a warning lamp to light up Diagnostic active Cycle flag set Error in debounce phase Error code: 28 62 A1 25 10 55 04 22 57 D3 20 C1 C1 67 57 D3 24 C0 C1 67 57 DA 30 BE C4 67 ------------------------------------------------------------- 2863 CDKDVULV2 - VVT-Power supply (bank2) P1058 VVT-Supply Voltage Control Motor High Input (Bank 2) Error counter: 4 Logistic counter: 34 1. Umweltsatz Mileage 179864 km Engine speed (nmot) 1080.00 /min Supply voltage (ub) 18.09 V Engine temperature (tmot) 96.75 degrees C Ambient temperature (tumg) 29.25 Degrees C 2. Umweltsatz Mileage 179864 km Engine speed (nmot) 1640.00 /min Supply voltage (ub) 18.09 V Engine temperature (tmot) 96.75 degrees C Ambient temperature (tumg) 29.25 Degrees C 3. Umweltsatz Mileage 179920 km Engine speed (nmot) 1840.00 /min Supply voltage (ub) 17.80 V Engine temperature (tmot) 99.00 degrees C Ambient temperature (tumg) 29.25 Degrees C Signal or value above threshold Test conditions fulfilled Error not present now, but already stored Error would cause a warning lamp to light up Diagnostic active Cycle flag set Error in debounce phase Error code: 28 63 A1 25 10 58 04 22 57 D3 1B C0 C1 67 57 D3 29 C0 C1 67 57 DA 2E BD C4 67 ------------------------------------------------------------- 2788 CDKVFZ - Vehicle speed Error counter: 2 Logistic counter: 34 1. Umweltsatz Mileage 179864 km Engine speed (nmot) 1320.00 /min Relative air filling (rl) 11.25 % vfzg2 0.00 km/h Supply voltage (ub) 18.18 V 2. Umweltsatz Mileage 179920 km Engine speed (nmot) 1080.00 /min Relative air filling (rl) 11.25 % vfzg2 0.00 km/h Supply voltage (ub) 18.18 V No signal or value Test conditions fulfilled Error not occurred yet Error would cause a warning lamp to light up Diagnostic active Error code: 27 88 84 01 00 00 02 22 57 D3 21 0F 00 C1 57 DA 1B 0F 00 C1 FF FF FF FF FF FF ------------------------------------------------------------- 29A8 CDKPMBN - power management network failure Error counter: 2 Logistic counter: 34 1. Umweltsatz Mileage 179864 km Supply voltage (ub) 18.27 V Engine speed (nmot) 1120.00 /min IBS-Error 1 (ibsderrs1) 0.00 bin IBS-Fehler 2 (ibsderrs2) 0.00 bin 2. Umweltsatz Mileage 179920 km Supply voltage (ub) 18.27 V Engine speed (nmot) 1000.00 /min IBS-Error 1 (ibsderrs1) 0.00 bin IBS-Fehler 2 (ibsderrs2) 0.00 bin No signal or value Test conditions fulfilled Error not present now, but already stored Error would not cause a warning lamp to light up Diagnostic active Cycle flag set Error in debounce phase Error code: 29 A8 24 25 00 00 02 22 57 D3 C2 1C 00 00 57 DA C2 19 00 00 FF FF FF FF FF FF ------------------------------------------------------------- 279D CDKMLE - Control engine fan Error counter: 1 Logistic counter: 29 Mileage 179880 km Engine speed (nmot) 400.00 /min Engine temperature (tmot) 28.50 degrees C Supply voltage (ub) 11.21 V Scan ratio electric fan (taml) 7.06 % No signal or value Test conditions fulfilled Error not present now, but already stored Error would not cause a warning lamp to light up Diagnostic active Cycle flag set Error in debounce phase Error code: 27 9D 24 25 00 00 01 1D 57 D5 0A 66 77 12 FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF ------------------------------------------------------------- 278D CDKTKA - Temp. sensor coolant temperature P2184 Engine Coolant Temperature Sensor 2 Circuit Low Error counter: 1 Logistic counter: 31 Mileage 179880 km Engine speed (nmot) 720.00 /min Engine temperature (tmot) 24.75 degrees C Ambient temperature (tumg) 20.25 Degrees C ADC TKA (adtka) 5.00 V Signal or value below threshold Test conditions fulfilled Error not present now, but already stored Error would cause a warning lamp to light up Diagnostic active Error in debounce phase Error code: 27 8D A2 21 21 84 01 1F 57 D5 12 61 5B FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF ================================================== ===========
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07-24-2013, 07:52 PM
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The most common problem is the ABS/DSC module. If you have one error code (possibly one wheel speed sensor) bonding wire intermittant, you will get the three yellow lights on the dash. If you have more than one error code, (possibily 2 wheel speed sensors) intermittant, You are now going to get put into "transmission fail safe mode" on top of the three lights.
The module really isn't that sensitive to voltage change (due to internal regulation)... What will cause issues is any lack of voltage to an existing intermittant bonding wire! This "lower" voltage situation will just add to your problems, and possibly trick you into buying a new alternator, when actually, your alternator is with in tolerance. The bottom line is..... don't get tricked into thinking it's any one part. Do a proper diagnostic, or almost always you will throw your money away! If it is your ABS/DSC module, chances are you will have more than one related code to it.... "the module".... (usually wheel speed sensors) Good Luck. See also: http://www.xoutpost.com/bmw-sav-foru...-included.html
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07-25-2013, 09:52 AM
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Ok so I borrowed a code reader: when the issue reared up this am, I captured a P189 transmission code, but that was it...car was barely going down the road, in total limp-home mode and trans issues galore. Limped it to my auto Indy where they put a BETTER code reader & pulled about 10 codes...many of them indicating voltage spikes.
They then installed a voltage reader into my cig. lighter and with the diagnostic hooked up, measured voltages from 12.1 up to 17.3 while idling and with a little gas added: the voltage reader went to "bad" immediately...ie, bad regulator/alternator. So, I have one coming, we'll see if that fixes it all.  Mark
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07-25-2013, 10:01 AM
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17.3V is very bad... the voltage in a running car should never exceed 16V, and even that is the highest threshold specified. the voltage regulator is probably gone bad, unless they can replace the regulator only with little money, you might have to replace the entire alternator... what else did they read? Do you know how to pull on-board voltage reader from the cluster? How to go in TEST mode (i think voltage TEST is #9)
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07-25-2013, 10:03 AM
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I had to go with a new alternator: couldn't get in just the regulator in-time as our Porsche's are out for maintenance as well.
It also pulled speed sensors (2) of them, and a few others but mostly linked to voltage issues. The Tech saw the voltage issues in a few of the readouts; Neat decoder!
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07-25-2013, 10:04 AM
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your tranmission module is located under the rear seat on the driver's side, when you pull the seat up, there is a cushion tucked in the corner of seat base, the module is under that cushion. you don't normally need to mess with the module but you might want to check to see if there is anything burnt there - with these voltage spikes you may have some burnt smell there... telling you about it just in case...
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07-25-2013, 10:05 AM
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I have poor senses, except for my nose.
Hot as heck here so windows up & AC running: no smells, but thanks for that update! Hoping all is well with the new alternator in-place. :/
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07-25-2013, 10:06 AM
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speed sensors will affect the ABS module, the speedometer, the cruise control, the odometer, the transmission and can put engine into failsafe as well... don't ignore it - once alternator is replaced, drive the car for a mile or so, to see if the things cleared up on their own, then clear the codes in the shop, drive the car again, to see if the new codes will set...
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