FINALLY 2004-2006 HALO's opened and Fitted! - Page 4

Ricky Bobby · #31 11-05-2014, 03:49 PM

Crystal what brand are you using? Want to send or post up a link?

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crystalworks · #32 11-05-2014, 04:09 PM

Ebay sold... seller is hid.lighting

They come from China... but like I said... never had a problem with them.

BMW Angel Eye Halo Light Error Free LED SMD E46 E39 E38 E36 White 3 5 7 Series | eBay

Edit: I should clarify, I've never had a problem with the rings... I had a ballast/igniter go out on one set after 3 years. Also had a termination on a relay be a little wonky which took about 30 mins to diagnose and another 5 to fix. Other than those 2 issues (installed over 10 sets of these) I haven't had any issues.

Ricky Bobby · #33 11-05-2014, 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by crystalworks

Ebay sold... seller is hid.lighting

They come from China... but like I said... never had a problem with them.

BMW Angel Eye Halo Light Error Free LED SMD E46 E39 E38 E36 White 3 5 7 Series | eBay

Edit: I should clarify, I've never had a problem with the rings... I had a ballast/igniter go out on one set after 3 years. Also had a termination on a relay be a little wonky which took about 30 mins to diagnose and another 5 to fix. Other than those 2 issues (installed over 10 sets of these) I haven't had any issues.

Ahhhh so you've found those guys too? Yes those are quality sets, the problem is the sizing. I've recommended these sets for guys with stock xenons for a while now, as they are quality for the price!

If you were to fit a set of those, the size you'd use is the 146mm on the high beam (same size as halogen E46 rings), but the low beam is kinda tricky since the E53 has sort of an odd low beam shape/size.

I'd say to request the 128mm low beam from the E53 kit, and see if they can make you a kit of both, if we're talking facelift rings here. For pre-facelift, those guys already sell the 158/128 mm sets.

They come with a nice relay so as long as that's hooked up I dont think you'd have a problem with them.

Ricky Bobby · #34 11-05-2014, 04:44 PM

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Originally Posted by crystalworks

RB I'd really appreciate that. I did some research and from I gathered... the appropriate ring sizes are: 120mm and 140mm... but wanted to verify. I think that info was from one of the members here during a retrofit and he posted pics with a tape measure.

X5SND used full circle 120/140mm XBA Rings from Morimoto, mounted behind the stock rings. He did note in his build thread that a 125mm would actually be perfect, because the 120mm was a tad small.

Which is what makes me think the 146/128mm combo from hid.lighting might work for you guys. Now you're intriguing me to try on my own lights (facelift replicas for pre-facelift I posted on page 1) with the hid.lighting Hong Kong kit before dropping the $200 with Umnitza, just because it annoys the shit out of me that they don't give their sizes out so I can't "gauge" how good the fitment is going to be.

There are also US sellers on ebay selling full circle "Universal V2" rings which you can get in 120/140mm and those would replace the stock rings fully as they have a diffuser.

crystalworks · #35 11-05-2014, 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Ricky Bobby

There are also US sellers on ebay selling full circle "Universal V2" rings which you can get in 120/140mm and those would replace the stock rings fully as they have a diffuser.

Yes, I've also contacted hid.lighting and they can do a 120/140mm kit, but there is a language barrier unfortunately. I did not know they had a 146 and 128 (from different kits I'm sure). I think the 146 might be too big though? And the 128mm would be about perfect as you said. Maybe a 140mm/128mm would be perfect? X5SND's pics looked like decent fitment with 120/140...

I've seen the universal V2 US sellers as well... they are in the $50/pr range if memory serves. Still better than Umnitza, whom I agree is being a bit "protective" by not giving the size of the rings. And I am being very politically correct with "protective."

Ricky Bobby · #36 11-05-2014, 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by crystalworks

Yes, I've also contacted hid.lighting and they can do a 120/140mm kit, but there is a language barrier unfortunately. I did not know they had a 146 and 128 (from different kits I'm sure). I think the 146 might be too big though? And the 128mm would be about perfect as you said. Maybe a 140mm/128mm would be perfect? X5SND's pics looked like decent fitment with 120/140...

I've seen the universal V2 US sellers as well... they are in the $50/pr range if memory serves. Still better than Umnitza, whom I agree is being a bit "protective" by not giving the size of the rings. And I am being very politically correct with "protective."

As I mentioned about Umnitza, the quality of the product is excellent. I do not know how giving the diameter of their rings vs. another brand in order to gauge fitment on custom applications "allows people to copy them", it has nothing to do with the internal technology.

I sent a message to hid.lighting, you have to remember that we are working with two different housings that look similar. Mine are aftermarket 01-03 Spyder facelift looking housings, while you are looking to use factory facelift housings.

Why not PM Mike (pnoyako85) as I think the guy who did the work on his lights gave him the stock angel eye rings back, just have him measure them with a caliper in order to double check?

The universal V2 rings on ebay are about $40/pair, for my application since it is a retrofit I'd like to have the relay harness for the battery since I am actually adding rings for the first time.

pnoyako85 · #37 11-05-2014, 06:06 PM

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Originally Posted by crystalworks

Ebay sold... seller is hid.lighting

They come from China... but like I said... never had a problem with them.

BMW Angel Eye Halo Light Error Free LED SMD E46 E39 E38 E36 White 3 5 7 Series | eBay

Edit: I should clarify, I've never had a problem with the rings... I had a ballast/igniter go out on one set after 3 years. Also had a termination on a relay be a little wonky which took about 30 mins to diagnose and another 5 to fix. Other than those 2 issues (installed over 10 sets of these) I haven't had any issues.

one word....

RUN RUN RUN RUN....

if you're opening them up..don't go cheap on the rings as if they blow out or have some problems at least you can return them...just my opinion

crystalworks · #38 11-05-2014, 10:46 PM

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Originally Posted by pnoyako85

one word....

RUN RUN RUN RUN....

if you're opening them up..don't go cheap on the rings as if they blow out or have some problems at least you can return them...just my opinion

I hear you, and again appreciate the input. I've had many years of experience with these rings and their seller. For less than 1/5 the price of Umnitza I would be willing to risk it. As I said, never had a ring go bad on over 10 sets... and that would be the only reason to have to open a light back up. A ballast/inverter/wiring etc could all be handled either through the back of the light or external to the light. Done this mod many times with these rings.

But as RB suggested, perhaps you could measure the outer diameter of the factory rings on your headlights? Would help greatly and put to rest what the facelift lights diameter rings should be for those interested.

pnoyako85 · #39 11-05-2014, 11:01 PM

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Originally Posted by crystalworks

I hear you, and again appreciate the input. I've had many years of experience with these rings and their seller. For less than 1/5 the price of Umnitza I would be willing to risk it. As I said, never had a ring go bad on over 10 sets... and that would be the only reason to have to open a light back up. A ballast/inverter/wiring etc could all be handled either through the back of the light or external to the light. Done this mod many times with these rings.

But as RB suggested, perhaps you could measure the outer diameter of the factory rings on your headlights? Would help greatly and put to rest what the facelift lights diameter rings should be for those interested.

When I get a chance I'll measure them as I put them in storage already... I wonder why Umnitza doesn't tell the size diameter of them.

four.8is · #40 11-06-2014, 12:58 AM

Are the V4's not gonna fit or why are you all going for the V2's?
From lots of reading on other forums, looks like the V4 is the way to go....it has a built in night controller, more LED's per ring (less spacing of the led's -the rings look more compact compared to V2) and a lot brighter.
What kind of shop would undertake this kind of job?id look for one in my area since I don't feel like baking my headlights to open them up..

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