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Old 06-15-2017, 08:47 AM
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Potential New e70 Owner with Questions

Hello All,

I'm looking at a two X5's this Friday and was hoping to get some advice. First a little background on myself. I have two e30's, a vert and track car that recently suffered a huge impact with the wall at Watkins Glen after a brake failure, some may recall the Jalopnik article last month. So I come from an older BMW background.

My reasons for looking at the X5 are mostly based upon the towing capacity and my experience with BMW's. I have a daily 03 Honda Pilot with 170k that has served me well but is nearing the point where refreshing the whole suspension is just about the cost of the truck is worth. Also after my track incident, I've begun the process of building a fully caged track e30 that I eventually hope to compete with. Alas that means I will need something capable of towing the e30 and lightweight aluminum trailer since the car will not be driven on the street.

The two trucks I am looking at for are both the V8 options. After doing some research it seems that most mention the reliability of these motors. So I wanted to know if I'm pursuing a huge money pit. If the 6's less power when towing is worth the trade vs. the 8. I keep the car in NYC on the street (which I am not thrilled about). Wondering about how bad the mpg's are also.

The two I'm looking at tomorrow are as follows.-

2011 - xDrive50i 77k for 17,900k with class 3 towing already installed. Description is as follows.

Fully-loaded V8 SUV with factory tow hitch with desirable Nevada Brown Leather interior. Clean CarFax; no accidents; non-smoker; no pets.Car comes with a transferrable extended warranty agreement valid until August 2017 or 80,534 miles with $0 deductible! BMW Gold Service Package performed at 57K miles. Two tires just replaced; other two have 80%+ tread. E-mail me for full datasheet from BMW.V8 Twin Turbo, 400hp, AWD in Metallic Black Sapphire with Nevada Brown Leather. Extended Service Agreement valid until August 2017 or 80,534 miles with $0 deductible. Heated, adjustable seats with lumbar support and memory; heated, leather steering wheel with tilt/telescope position memory. Navigation System with Satellite Radio, Voice Command and Real-Time Traffic Information. 16-speaker Premium Stereo; Comfort Access Keyless Entry; Automatic climate control with 4-zone control. Rear Back-up Camera; Park Distance Control; BMW Assist with Bluetooth; Power tailgate; Security System; Interface for USB/smartphone; additional USB interface to add music to onboard hard drive; interior mirror with digital compass. Factory Class III trailer tow hitch; vehicle rated to 6000 lbs. Xenon HID headlamps; rear side window shades; rear storage cover; running boards.19 inch wheels with TPMS/run-flat tires with 80-100% tread.

Other is a 2012 xDrive50i 29k miles for 26k from BMW Dealership with all the packages. Not to much other info on this one.

Any input and advice is GREATLY appreciated!!

Thanks - Greg

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Old 06-15-2017, 09:13 AM
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Both of those are newer than mine, so I can't really comment on those models particularly...and I've also only owned our X5 for about 11 months so we probably haven't seen the full reliability picture, but I'll still comment.

We purchased our '08 4.8i with 128k miles, just hit 140k a couple weeks ago. Had to replace the rear air bags (8-10yr item), and it also sprung a massive oil cooler gasket leak on New Years. Given the time of year, and the extent of that labor, I had a shop do it. Also had to replace the battery. We've had no other problems, and I'm not particularly worried about reliability going forward. For an older X5, we have no electrical gremlins, no issues with suspension that I can feel, but future oil leaks are likely. I think the main issue with the oil leaks is everything is so crowded in there that it's really the tedious labor that gets you. Valve cover gaskets aren't the 2 hour job I'm used to on an E36 (and I'm assuming E30 for you), it's more like 10.

We haven't towed yet, but from what I've read they're phenomenal towing vehicles.
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Old 06-15-2017, 06:42 PM
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I purchased my '08 4.8 last March. It had 93 k on the clock, now at 114k. Since purchase:
4 new tires about $1100
2 front wheel bearings $650
1 new alternator (this was a major issue... left me stranded twice before we could track it down!) $1000
1 rear bag-$350
Regular fluid changes oil, trans, etc. $400
Of course, there are other miscellaneous things, but the above are the major expenses in 16 months of ownership. This is by NO means a "bitch" post, just some things that I feel are worth mentioning. I have not experienced any oil leaks, burning oil symptoms valley pan gasket leaks or anything of the like. I just took a 600 mile trip in the X5 and it was an absolute blast to drive. I've not had the chance yet to take her out on an interstate for an extended period of time, and cruising at 90 + (with several triple digit runs) was effortless. Ran like the proverbial German Clock. My guess is that these trucks are pretty good at towing (mine has the tow package also) as others on the forums have attested. Given my choice and budget, I'd go with the '12 for $26k. You will have none of the problems I have...as those are higher mileage issues, I think. If you did, they would be covered (except tires and normal wear and tear stuff). Good luck with your decision.
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Old 06-16-2017, 03:24 PM
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the consensus on the poor mpg seems to be that owners expect poor mpgs before buying. until they drive it then reality sets in. some claim as high as 18pmg and a low of 7mpg. most likely 11 mpg avg

until you tow something then maybe 5 mpg


the v8 also does seem to be the more unreliable compared to the v6 or diesel.


to counter the point above. you could very well face more issues with a newer car. the higher mileage car might or might not have had the gremlins figured out like the driveshaft issue causing the transmission to granade
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Old 06-16-2017, 04:15 PM
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Oh I forgot about gas mileage. Average ~16 with mostly city. It gets above 20 with the instant meter on the highway, but haven't reset the average to see how accurate it is.
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