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Originally Posted by Scott ZHP
The valve stem can drop far enough into the guide that fishing it back up will be a major hassle. You need pressure on the valve head to keep it closed in order to R+R the retainers. Been using oiled cotton clothesline stuffed into a plug bore and compressed by the piston for years.
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I did start to lose a valve as I was not careful enough to compress the spring while staying off the valve. Fortunately, it didn't go down far. But I wasn't evaluating how far it might drop either.
I believe you both are correct.
If the cylinder is not TDC, then it will drop lower.
If the cylinder is TDC, the valve is long enough that it won't drop much in such a way that it is retrievable with a magnet or needlenose.