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Old 02-28-2020, 12:17 PM
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Forum newbie, looking into things before buying

Hello everyone, new to the site and didnít notice a specific introduction forum... so here it goes!
Iím Stefan, 36yo father of 2 boys together with my wife and we live in the north of The Netherlands.
I currently own an E61 and am tired of it, Iím very tall so I was looking into an 07-10 Audi A6 Allroad tdi to replace it, as I thought an X5 would be too expensive to keep on the road; after some digging, itís just a matter of tens of euros, not hundreds.
So... Iíd rather have an E70 3.0sd/35d and thatís why Iím here.
Having owned something like 7 or 8 BMWís prior to my E61 I have a general understanding of things to look out for.
What I am mainly looking for is fuel Ďeconomyí, and how long a set of tires will last.
I am looking at the 3.0sd/35d without sports suspension and preferably 19Ē wheels; I expect 24-25mpg (US) and about 10,000 miles out of a set of 255/50-19 summer tires (non rft non uhp, with all joints/bushings in good order and a proper alignment) and 8,000 miles from a set of 255/55-18 all weathers (we have moderate winters that are mostly just very wet, so proper winter tires are not needed).
Looking forward to hearing(/reading) some of your experiences!
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Old 02-28-2020, 12:45 PM
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I also own an e61 and am fairly tall (6'8"). About the same age with 2 offspring as well. Definitely more of a challenge to get into the e61 than the wife's e70 or my e53. But the e61 has more second row space than either of the x5's. Maybe a couple inches more leg room?

On your concerns. Fuel economy for our x35d is 22 City and 25-27 highway depending on speeds/road conditions. Tire wear on our 20's has been fine. We put the current set of Continental DWS' on the truck about 20000 miles ago and they are still very serviceable (70% tread life left). On 19's we used to get 27-30mpg highway.
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Old 02-28-2020, 12:58 PM
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Welcome!


Im 6'3 and can get into my E70 fairly easy. In my friends E71 I have to lower my head a bit lol. I see 18-19 mpg average in the city and 24-25 on the highway and I am not deleted yet. My tires are at about 18,000 miles of usage and they have plenty of life left. 19" NON run-flat Vredesteins, also from the Netherlands =)
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Sounds reasonable on fuel, I do very very little driving around town, we live and work in a rural area so that saves me a considerable amount of fuel. Talking about considerable, I really wouldn’t expect a car of this weight and power to see much more than 10-12k miles from a set, good!
And I’m 6’8 btw, did own a 2001 Allroad before the E61 and do I miss the ease of getting in and out of a somewhat raised car!
I have to say I am pleasantly surprised by what I’m reading up until now... thanks!

And where are you from originally Nyc Dito? Been living in the US for a long time now?
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And where are you from originally Nyc Dito? Been living in the US for a long time now?

Sorry, What I meant to say was that the tires were from The Netherlands. At least the brand started there..my mistake.


As for me I am Born, raised and living here in NYC.
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Old 02-28-2020, 01:49 PM
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as I thought an X5 would be too expensive to keep on the road; after some digging, itís just a matter of tens of euros, not hundreds.





Hmm...not sure what this means and if I agree with it....
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Hmm...not sure what this means and if I agree with it....
Yeah sorry, in hindsight that looks dumb.
What I meant is, Dutch road tax is based on vehicle weight, fuel and province. Iím comparing prices for parts/consumables (like tires) and fuel economy to a facelifted C6 Allroad 3.0 tdi, which is what I had in mind as a replacement for my E61 until I did some digging.
A set of 255/50-19 is only slightly more expensive than a set of 19s for the Allroad and tires last longer than I thought, so thatís a few tenners; fuel economy seems comparable, maybe 1-2mpg worse; road tax is also just a few tenners a month more.
I do all of my own maintenance and repairs and have done so for that last two decades, price levels seem comparable when going over parts that often break or wear at my favorite parts suppliers websites (and a heavier car will probably need a new ball joint or control arm sooner, but parts for German cars are cheap and plenty over here.
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I owned an E60 (replaced with a F10) and have an E70 (NON-Diesel) - comparatively there was no major difference in repairs / parts and if you do your own maintenance it will be similar as well. I found that issues were quite ďPredictableĒ eg there are a number of well known and discussed weaknesses in these models (eg cooling system, front suspension, etc). I believe the e61 has an air suspension which you may find in some versions of the e70.

The interior space and easiness to get in/out are definitely a plus in the e70 and is the preferred vehicle for road trips / errands, however, the fuel economy is not similar and for daily commute the e60 (and now the F10) where the obvious choice for a wide margin - expect a 25-30% increase compared with your e61 (diesel maybe less)

Second row space in our e70 is significantly better compared to the e60/F10, maybe because we have third row seating and the second row can be rolled further back and reclines a bit.

Tires...my e60 was RWD and ate rear tires quite rapidly, specially on the insides due the rear camber and because it had staggered set; I think I went through tires faster on that car vs the e70 (note, I drove it more aggressively than the e70)

Just my 5 cents.
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Welcome to the board. Where in the north of NL are you?
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TriX, youre in NL these days, right?


Also, as I recall, member 'deroy' over on bimmerfest is there as well


(btw, I know you have 3 x5s, hence the name...but when I see it I think Tri-X pan film...)
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