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Old 03-19-2020, 08:52 PM
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Oil pan gasket question

As everyone knows, the oil pan gasket diy is a pain to do, since the subframe need to be dropped and so on, after 180k miles on my 13 X5 35i, that gasket is no longer seeping and I have a drop. Local places around the Chicago area are telling me it's about a 1700 dollar job, after taxes with an oil change and alignment. I know the dealers want 3k before the alignment and an oil change. But my question is, what really needs to be removed because I was thinking about changing out my tie rods and control arms in the next few months, but if I'm gonna pay someone to work on my car, which I hate the idea of, I wanted to ask if they would replace those components they remove with new ones, but I don't want to kinda just ask about things that wont get removed. So any input would be appreciated and anyone else in the Chicago area get it done from a shop that they trust and was done for cheaper? Two places I've looked at, the owners and a lot of the master techs used to be bmw master techs, so I know they would do it properly.
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Old 03-19-2020, 09:48 PM
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If you want it done properly and cheaply you'll have to do it yourself. Otherwise $1700 doesn't sound unreasonable for quality work. Just ask the shop how much extra it would be for the tie rods and control arms.

Maybe someone from Chicago will have a shop recommendation.
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Old 03-19-2020, 10:42 PM
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I paid $1300 to have it done last year. I supplied everything including oil/filter/TC case fluid/gaskets etc.
Pain to get anybody to do it because so much gets disconnected or removed to get at the stupid $45 gasket.
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IMO...you're gonna be staying at home. Spend the time in the garage!
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I would usually do it myself, because I've done pretty much everything else on my cars, but I have a chronic back issue now, and since i don't have access to a lift, i don't want to strain my body more than it has to right now. Most shops in my area will replace things they take off if i supply the part, i just wanted to know what they really need to take apart, because i don't want to be upsold on unnecessary parts being replaced. An example is, my brother was told his control arm needed to be replaced because a squeak in his car, and after it was done, the squeak was still there. So 1700 isn't too bad of a price for quality? I'll never take my car to a bad mechanic, Friend had a engine swap done for 500 and they forgot to connect half the electrical connectors.
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Old 03-20-2020, 03:01 PM
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The shop I was at wouldn't do customer provided parts at all because they couldn't warranty them. Not sure $1700 is a great price, but I wouldn't call it unreasonable either. Maybe check a couple of other reputable shops for over-the-phone quotes to compare.

I hear you on chronic back problems. Had back surgery a couple of years ago for a major herniation (3cm). Microdiskectomy helped immensely, like 85-90% pain reduction. Good luck with whatever yours is, back pain affects everything.
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By this date you’ve probably changed the oil pan gasket. I had this work done on a 530xi (our first BMW) along with a transmission drain and transmission pan replacement. Car had 145,000 miles. A trusted INDY did the work. It was nearly a two day job and I checked in to see the work in progress. The front drive shafts had to be removed as they went through the middle of the oil pan. Only then did I FULLY appreciate the extent of the work required to complete the simple gasket change. I used some colorful language under my breath as I realized the true extent of the job. We now have a 2009 X5 E70 with 118,000 miles and I’m about to have the same work done on it FOR THE SAME REASON - the two gaskets leak. Also the water pump and thermostat housing will be changed. We love our BMWs.
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Haven't had it done yet, just still shopping around, and because of the coronavirus problem, a lot of the shops I would trust have been having only volunteers work, so I dont want to give them that big of a job and have someone call off and not finish it until later. Yeah the waterpump and thermostat job wasnt as bad as I thought it was, my x5 was a lot easier to do than my 535. Gotta love how tight newer cars are getting. Definitely missed my earlier bmws when I didnt have to remove an hour of stuff just to get to what I need to do.
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It is possible to cheat this job a bit. I did this on my E60 535xi. Since the engine is slanted, you can cut the corners on the top side of the gasket and install in two pieces. RTV both corners and reinstall. You still need a top side bar but only need to lower subframe far enough to get old gasket out and clean surfaces with cloth and a cleaning solvent. No need to disconnect half shafts or suspension. You may need to unbolt the rack and ps hoses.
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How long since you did it and how is it holding up?
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