E70 4.8i X5 vs the new Cayenne S

[scott27]

Once again: do not compare E53 4.8is with E70 4.8i. It's like comparing regular 3er coupe with M3. Or 320i with special edition 320si. Very different personalities.

E70 4.8i is a substitute for E53 4.4i, NOT 4.8is - despite same 4.8 designation.

A performance version of E70 will come later - just like E53 performance version came later after E53's launch.

Btw, E70 is a very capable vehicle - definitely much better than E53 (comparing entry I6 & V8 versions).

[canamx5]

Originally Posted by scott27

Once again: do not compare E53 4.8is with E70 4.8i. It's like comparing regular 3er coupe with M3. Or 320i with special edition 320si. Very different personalities.

E70 4.8i is a substitute for E53 4.4i, NOT 4.8is - despite same 4.8 designation.

A performance version of E70 will come later - just like E53 performance version came later after E53's launch.

Btw, E70 is a very capable vehicle - definitely much better than E53 (comparing entry I6 & V8 versions).

I think the comparison of the new 4.8i and e53 4.8is is valid as they are close in hp and 0-60 time.Waiting for the new ''IS'' to compare it to the old one is rediculous because the hp gap will be huge and it will be much faster (not fair).I understand ''IS'' OWNERS are reluctant to compare the 2 as one is highend model and the other is entry level. That's 7 years of evolution for you... Oh yeah btw, 10 seconds faster around the nurburgring!!! NUMBERS DON'T LIE.

[Denalio]

I hardly think the 4.8i is entry level!

[canamx5]

Originally Posted by Denalio

I hardly think the 4.8i is entry level!

I agree, call it what you want .I think you get the point! Yes?

[scott27]

Originally Posted by canamx5

I think the comparison of the new 4.8i and e53 4.8is is valid as they are close in hp and 0-60 time.Waiting for the new ''IS'' to compare it to the old one is rediculous because the hp gap will be huge and it will be much faster (not fair).I understand ''IS'' OWNERS are reluctant to compare the 2 as one is highend model and the other is entry level. That's 7 years of evolution for you... Oh yeah btw, 10 seconds faster around the nurburgring!!! NUMBERS DON'T LIE.

E53 4.8is had different engine, throttle, steering & suspension settings (stiffer) - tuned to deliver much more raw performance / racing feeling. E53 4.8is is a performance version of X5!

While E70 4.8i is a "civil", regular version of X5. With settings tuned to deliver refined driving feeling (compared to much more raw one in "is" version).

Despite having same engine with similar power / torque output the cars are very different (due different settings). And are meant to be different.

Mind that in E53 a 4.4i was an entry V8 version, while in E70 that role goes to 4.8i (entry V8 version!).

Really, it's not valid to mix & compare performance version to regular ones. Like comparing a acing car to a "civil" one. Like comparing M to non-M.

Btw, imagine what a beast a new performance version will be if a regular version (E70 4.8i) is already almost as good (or in some respects even better) as previous performance version (E53 4.8is)!

[canamx5]

Originally Posted by scott27

E53 4.8is had different engine, throttle, steering & suspension settings (stiffer) - tuned to deliver much more raw performance / racing feeling. E53 4.8is is a performance version of X5!

While E70 4.8i is a "civil", regular version of X5. With settings tuned to deliver refined driving feeling (compared to much more raw one in "is" version).

Despite having same engine with similar power / torque output the cars are very different (due different settings). And are meant to be different.

Mind that in E53 a 4.4i was an entry V8 version, while in E70 that role goes to 4.8i (entry V8 version!).

Really, it's not valid to mix & compare performance version to regular ones. Like comparing a acing car to a "civil" one. Like comparing M to non-M.

Btw, imagine what a beast a new performance version will be if a regular version (E70 4.8i) is already almost as good (or in some respects even better) as previous performance version (E53 4.8is)!

I agree with what you are saying,I was basically just compairing numbers wich are very similar. I can't even begin to imagine how ferousious the new ''IS'' will be.Are we talking 0-60 in the high 4's?probably 5.0?

[cue03]

Originally Posted by scott27

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Btw, imagine what a beast a new performance version will be if a regular version (E70 4.8i) is already almost as good (or in some respects even better) as previous performance version (E53 4.8is)!

This is the baby I am waiting for.... or should i say I will wait till she is one year old before I leave the existing 4.8is to get into the new "IS" replacement or into the Porsche Pepper Turbo.

So that should give me 2-3 years of service out of my existing 4.8is.

just in time for the stars and moon to line up and for me to get the new ride...

Curtis