Autobild Test: Q7 vs. X5 Vs. Cayenne S - Page 2

Wagner · #1 03-21-2007, 04:40 AM

Poor Bimmer, never seems to take top honors

Of course, Porsche never gets out of the back of the pack. Porsche needs to stick to performance cars.

Cairns · #2 03-21-2007, 11:29 AM

Thank you so much. Based on this I'm going to look at a Q7 this weekend. Before we bought BMWs we used to own Audi's. It can't hurt to look.

X5FX · #3 03-21-2007, 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Cairns

Thank you so much. Based on this I'm going to look at a Q7 this weekend. Before we bought BMWs we used to own Audi's. It can't hurt to look.

Its very impressive...I almost bought the Q7 before ultimatly deciding on the X5. The BMW Ultimate Service was the deciding factor for me...it was that close.

o, I also prefer the look of the X over the Q

BG624 · #4 03-21-2007, 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Cairns

Thank you so much. Based on this I'm going to look at a Q7 this weekend. Before we bought BMWs we used to own Audi's. It can't hurt to look.

I'm on my 3rd. Audi A8, great cars. We checked out the Q7 and it's real nice. Much more plush than the X5 and Audi's computer system is far superior to BMW's. The main computer difference is that with Audi you just push a button to get to the different functions (nav, radio, phone, etc.) and then use the wheel to navigate throught that function rather than having to go to the menu in I-Drive every time you want to change functions. The reason we're getting the X5 is that the Q's just too big and we don't need the extra space and my wife doesn't like the looks of it not to mention the fact that the X5 handles better and all service is free. The X5 is more of a drivers SUV.

art4.8i · #5 03-21-2007, 04:29 PM

i had a Hertz Audi Q7 3.6 rental for a whole week. Boy, am i glad not to drive this bus anymore! honestly, it is long, clumsy, and as mentioned before fugly! dont get me wrong, but compared to the Q7, the new x5 seems to be so much sexier, more driver-oriented and exciting. Driving the Q7 required so much more attention that it would in the X5. When it came to some fast driving, the Q7 behaved rather unpredictably.( initial understeer, but suddenly too much oversteer; all that with absolutely no feel in the steering wheel. WOW! past 70mph, the car felt extremely top heavy and again clumsy. Thus, it is just not pleasurable to drive this car fast. Oh, lastly, the throttle response was very imprecise and made the transmission shift unexpectedly. Alright, enough of negativity; compared to its american rivals, it is an S-class, but for some reason it doesnt go along with my personal driving habits. However, if one wants a comfortable car but yet requires no driving exhilaration, the Q7 is perfect.OK, i must give it to audi, the materials are quite nice inside and everything is nice to touch, but driving it................................................ ....... sigh
On the last note, the car i drove had xenons, but it seemed that they would only adjust vertically but not horizontally. they might have been broken, it is a rental after all!
So, after a week of crazy driving all around Napa Valley. The bus made me miss my x5 every moment!
P.S this i just an opinion, not hatred! i do love some audis, mostly the S and RS line!

Cairns · #6 03-21-2007, 12:51 PM

Yes I think the Q7 is fugly at least from the front. But I don't think I've ever seen one in person. The test tells me they're worth a look. The website says (to me) that they're quite reasonably priced and have a much better interface than the I Drive. $500 for an installed trailer hitch is a lot more reasonable the 12 to 16 hundred BMW wants.

The Porsche, IMO, is just hideously overpriced and represents a very poor value. While I own one (a 911 not a Cayenne) and love the marque everything- and I mean everything- is optional at an extra cost. If you want poor reliability why not get the Toureag and save thousands? You can buy the Porsche logo and stick it on for less than $20.

On the other hand, unlike BMW, Porsche can apparently supply the options it advertises.

X5FX · #7 03-21-2007, 01:04 PM

Their version of the Idrive is very similar to the X5's...I dont recall it being that much better. The interior is larger and the 3rd row is superior, it also has 3rd row airbags. The carpet they use is pretty cool, has a very nice, elegant appearance and looks like it would hold up much better than the BMW's. And of course it has Quatro...overall a very worthy competitor and worth a look.

Another point that led me to the X5 was in doing a google search on service and reliability it generally got low marks.

X5_2_OBX · #8 03-21-2007, 01:46 PM

I guess we are swaying a bit off topic here but I was once REALLY impressed with the Q7. Until the E70 came out. The exterior of the Q7 leaves a lot to be desired, it feels VERY tight inside even with the pano roof and the dash/console area are very cluttered. Not to mention, I currently drive an Audi A4 and while I *love* the car, Audi service and customer service need a MAJOR overhaul! If my family didn't know much about cars, we would have been screwed out of thousands of dollars by now. Thankfully, we are smarter than they are!

Back to the Pepper- I can't get far enough past the looks to appreciate what it offers in performance!

BG624 · #9 03-21-2007, 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Cairns

Yes I think the Q7 is fugly at least from the front. But I don't think I've ever seen one in person. The test tells me they're worth a look. The website says (to me) that they're quite reasonably priced and have a much better interface than the I Drive. $500 for an installed trailer hitch is a lot more reasonable the 12 to 16 hundred BMW wants.

The Porsche, IMO, is just hideously overpriced and represents a very poor value. While I own one (a 911 not a Cayenne) and love the marque everything- and I mean everything- is optional at an extra cost. If you want poor reliability why not get the Toureag and save thousands? You can buy the Porsche logo and stick it on for less than $20.

On the other hand, unlike BMW, Porsche can apparently supply the options it advertises.

Yeah Porsche options you to death. A fully optioned Cayenne S is much more $ than an X5. You can probably add $25000 in options if you wanted to. I'm a Porsche guy but when it comes to SUV's I think they missed the mark unless you want a high performance off road capable machine, then maybe. However when it comes to high performance sports cars it's a different story.

Slalom · #10 03-21-2007, 03:05 PM

I tried to buy a Cayenne, the dealer would not speak to me. I was dressed for work (corporate lawyer), showed up dirving my BMW, no other customers in the showroom. I felt like the invisible man. I guess he saw the BMW and he figured that his cause was hopeless!