Personal test drive of a E70

[richone52]

Originally Posted by thisX5life

Active Steering was the one option I was really uncertain about when I was placing my order. I've read every comment I could find abouut it, in car reviews and on message boards, and it seems like some people love it and some people hate it. The X5 I tested didn't have it, and the steering felt fine to me. I asked my CA if the dealership had, or would soon get, an X5 with AS so I could try it out. I was told they didn't have a single vehicle of any series on the lot with AS, and so far no customer had ordered it on an E70. I called several other dealers in the area and got the same story.

I left it off my order.

I did get the Active steering option on my e70 and I must say I am glad I did. It is nothing short of amazing. Once you get used to it I would not be without it. I had to bring my car in for service and they gave me a x3 without it as a loaner and after driving my e70 for a few weeks the x3 without itfelt dull and unresponsive. Since I got it most of the cars in my local dealership have it now and it's getting a lot of good talk.

[phil47]

Just did a back-to-back test of an E70 4.8 with and without active steering at a BMW-sponsored test drive last weekend. They set up a great little course at a local race track (high speed slalom, low speed slalom, avoidance maneuver, emergency braking, etc.). Everybody commented on how much more responsive the E70 with active steering was (including myself). I'm convinced that I would check off this box if ordering a new E70.

[X5 Meister]

I've read the same thing everywhere too, that active steering should definitely be avoided. Having said that to me it seems like a technology that, once you are used to it, could be really beneficial. However the key is to get used to it, which BMW unfortunately does not give you a chance to do very easily.

Originally Posted by richone52

I did get the Active steering option on my e70 and I must say I am glad I did. It is nothing short of amazing. Once you get used to it I would not be without it. I had to bring my car in for service and they gave me a x3 without it as a loaner and after driving my e70 for a few weeks the x3 without itfelt dull and unresponsive. Since I got it most of the cars in my local dealership have it now and it's getting a lot of good talk.

[richone52]

Originally Posted by mgruber

I've read the same thing everywhere too, that active steering should definitely be avoided. Having said that to me it seems like a technology that, once you are used to it, could be really beneficial. However the key is to get used to it, which BMW unfortunately does not give you a chance to do very easily.

mgruber

Actually that is not what I was saying. I am saying that it SHOULD be ordered. To put it more simply, this is a must HAVE option. The more you use it the better it feels. I will say that if you had the ability to test it for the first time as others have, you would be sold to get it.

[X5 Meister]

Sorry about that, I mistakenly quoted the wrong person.

In any case, I understand what you are saying, but I think Active Steering is sort of like IDrive, the more you use it the better it is and the easier it is to sell to someone. Some technologies just work right out of the box and people don't need to "get used to them" to want them...such as automatic windows vs. hand crank windows. If BMW could offer some kind of short term test (yeah I know how this sounds) of cars that have these pretty significant and rather "altering" technologies, then I think they would sell them better. Like I said virtually 99% of the magazines (print and online) reviews/tests/impressions/etc. of the BMW active steereing system were negative and recommended leaving it off the car. Now I doubt BMW would really develop such a bad system that no one would want it (no idrive comments please) so my only conclusion is that these very short term tests are in fact too short. If reviewers had maybe a month (random guess) to spend with the car then maybe they would love it as much as they love air conditioning.

Originally Posted by richone52

mgruber

Actually that is not what I was saying. I am saying that it SHOULD be ordered. To put it more simply, this is a must HAVE option. The more you use it the better it feels. I will say that if you had the ability to test it for the first time as others have, you would be sold to get it.

[mkaresh]

I think active steering is far less questionable than iDrive.

It makes a great deal of intuitive sense. I personally like ultra-quick steering, but such steering is a bad idea at high speeds, and BMW designs cars for the autobahn.

Solution: steering that is quick at low speeds and slow at high speeds. No doubt the execution will become increasingly sophisticated and refined over time.