What is the best TV in motion option

[Denalio]

So to get TV programs do you need to subscribe to some sort of service? How does it work? or is this just for video source material?

[jamesboags]

Hey guys laws are there to be broken... Live a little !!!

[AVATT]

A slight correction to my earlier post. The VehicleDock from NAV-TV will allow for audio and video on the OEM screen. However, while you can view the Ipod menus on the OEM screen with the VehicleDock, you can only control and scroll thru the menus via the VehicleDock remote control or the Ipod itself, NOT via the I-Drive controls. (Currently NAV-TV only has a system to allow for the I-drive controls to control the Ipod for the Rover and MB vehicles). The BMW56CAN will allow you to use the I-Drive controls (and steering wheel buttons) to move between the various new external sources (up to 3 external sources plus a new backup camera). In my case to call up the FLIR, IPOD or Rear Entertainment System.

However, there is a system from Denision which allows you to use the I-drive controls to actually control the IPOD and its menus.

You need the Denision Gateway 500

Dension: iPod + USB

and the Denision AVR

Dension: Video

The vehicleDock is $300, the Denision system is aprox $1,000 and there is a 3rd alternative for $40. See:

PIE Precision Interface Electronics Online Store - AUDIO VIDEO OUTPUT iPod Adaptor

However, this 3rd option will only allow for control via the IPOD. In addition, the OEM screen will remain blank while playing audio and will remain blank while scrolling thru the Ipod menus until actually playing a video. However it is obviously a far cheaper option. None of the above prices include installation.

Finally, I have to weigh in as well on the posts in which some become self appointed leo's and moral authorities. Some presume that those with these interfaces have them solely for the purpose of video in motion. They are incorrect. In my case it is for the purpose of being able to control the menus and view what I am calling up on the OEM screen. The rear entertainment system otherwise (which is for my small children) would have to be controlled from a passenger in the back actually viewing the rear screens (my children are to young to use the controls). It is for the convenience of viewing the menus if I am alone with my small children (while driving) that I chose this interface.

Moreover, I have to challenge these premises. It seems acceptable to some that you scroll thru endless screens in the I-drive for comfort, climate, NAV, entertainment and commo for minutes on end. Yet, viewing video is somehow different? All of these are distractions. That is why the safe and effective driver utilizes a scan technique which allows for viewing information- speed, fuel and yes the I-drive standard functions inside the cabin with the road and environment outside the cabin.

I have been to numerous safety courses, both auto and aviation and am trained in C3RM (Crew/cockpit/Cabin resource management as well as licensed to practice law in Illinois so I am fully aware of the law and the attendant risks and get a little incensed at those who feel the need to pontificate on the law and the presumed behavior or motivations of others.

[JCL]

Originally Posted by AVATT

Finally, I have to weigh in as well on the posts in which some become self appointed leo's and moral authorities. Some presume that those with these interfaces have them solely for the purpose of video in motion. They are incorrect. In my case it is for the purpose of being able to control the menus and view what I am calling up on the OEM screen. The rear entertainment system otherwise (which is for my small children) would have to be controlled from a passenger in the back actually viewing the rear screens (my children are to young to use the controls). It is for the convenience of viewing the menus if I am alone with my small children (while driving) that I chose this interface.

Moreover, I have to challenge these premises. It seems acceptable to some that you scroll thru endless screens in the I-drive for comfort, climate, NAV, entertainment and commo for minutes on end. Yet, viewing video is somehow different? All of these are distractions. That is why the safe and effective driver utilizes a scan technique which allows for viewing information- speed, fuel and yes the I-drive standard functions inside the cabin with the road and environment outside the cabin.

I have been to numerous safety courses, both auto and aviation and am trained in C3RM (Crew/cockpit/Cabin resource management as well as licensed to practice law in Illinois so I am fully aware of the law and the attendant risks and get a little incensed at those who feel the need to pontificate on the law and the presumed behavior or motivations of others.

While I am not incensed at your pontifications, I have a question. Why would you assume that those of us who think vehicles (especially BMWs) are for driving, and who think that TV in motion is a really dumb idea, would think that it is safe to play with a nav screen or iDrive or tend to the video programming of children in the back seat while driving? Of course they are all distractions, but at least one of these activities is illegal in many jurisdictions. Hopefully we will soon come out of the era of vehicles being configured as living rooms, media rooms, and babysitters. Until then, stay safe.

[Muz]

I have the rear DVD system .. its getting the TV there that would interest me so folks in the back can watch that all the time

[Texas5]

Originally Posted by JCL

... but at least one of these activities is illegal in many jurisdictions. Hopefully we will soon come out of the era of vehicles being configured as living rooms, media rooms, and babysitters. Until then, stay safe.

Exceeding the speed limit is illegal as well (and would be considered 'unsafe' in most situations). Who here can claim they never do that?

[AVATT]

Originally Posted by JCL

While I am not incensed at your pontifications, I have a question. Why would you assume that those of us who think vehicles (especially BMWs) are for driving, and who think that TV in motion is a really dumb idea, would think that it is safe to play with a nav screen or iDrive or tend to the video programming of children in the back seat while driving? Of course they are all distractions, but at least one of these activities is illegal in many jurisdictions. Hopefully we will soon come out of the era of vehicles being configured as living rooms, media rooms, and babysitters. Until then, stay safe.

JCL:

In response please note:

Your statement guised as a question is based upon a false premise, answers itself in part and is, I believe, intellectually dishonest.

First, I made no pontificating statement, as defined by any reasonable definition. I merely replied as to why I felt your pontification - i.e. dogmatic, unsolicited opinioin which failed to address the query as to how to implement a video system but rather offered your personal view as to why you feel these systems are stupid and by implication, those who install them - was misguided. I also note that the very post above to which I am replying continues to pontificate with your statements guised as a question.

Second, I made no assumption, hence my use of the term "some." I stand by my statement. There are some who do not equate the inherent (and therefore obvious) dangers of the I-Drive with video. They are all equally dangerous, the very point of the second half of my posting.

Third, I did and do draw an inference from your and others posts. You were silent in your original post as to the danger of the I-Drive and only felt compelled to provide your opinion when someone raised the question of implementing video in motion. Moreover, I have not found any other instance in this forum in which you raised the issue of the dangers of the I-Drive or any other distractions. You therefore, appeared only concerned with video as opposed to all distractions. Were is/was your opinion/judgment/concerns on all other equally dangerous distractions? Finally, I note that your above post refers to video as "a really dumb idea" and the I-Drive only as a safety issue. You continue to separate the two. I again infer that you do not believe that BMW is "really dumb" or you would not have purchased the vehicle. Either that or by your own definition you intentionally engage in dumb behavior by purchasing and operating a BMW with I-Drive.

Fourth, you fail to discern one of my points that not all who implement these interfaces do so to watch video while operating the vehicle. I have no such intention.

For these reasons I find your posts on this topic to be intellectually dishonest.

[m5james]

Originally Posted by JCL

Hopefully we will soon come out of the era of vehicles being configured as living rooms, media rooms, and babysitters. Until then, stay safe.

And maybe the internet and cellphones will go away so we'll all return the libraries and get back to using land lines. I'm just playing now

Honestly, if anything, things are just gonna keep going the way of more technology at the drivers touch. Pretty soon bottom of the barrel cars will have this kind of stuff also, so I don't think technology in cars is going to start going backwards to the days of just a simple stereo and nothing more anytime soon.

[Tom G.]

Originally Posted by AVATT

A slight correction to my earlier post. The VehicleDock from NAV-TV will allow for audio and video on the OEM screen. However, while you can view the Ipod menus on the OEM screen with the VehicleDock, you can only control and scroll thru the menus via the VehicleDock remote control or the Ipod itself, NOT via the I-Drive controls. (Currently NAV-TV only has a system to allow for the I-drive controls to control the Ipod for the Rover and MB vehicles). The BMW56CAN will allow you to use the I-Drive controls (and steering wheel buttons) to move between the various new external sources (up to 3 external sources plus a new backup camera). In my case to call up the FLIR, IPOD or Rear Entertainment System.

However, there is a system from Denision which allows you to use the I-drive controls to actually control the IPOD and its menus.

You need the Denision Gateway 500

Dension: iPod + USB

and the Denision AVR

Dension: Video

The vehicleDock is $300, the Denision system is aprox $1,000 and there is a 3rd alternative for $40. See:

PIE Precision Interface Electronics Online Store - AUDIO VIDEO OUTPUT iPod Adaptor

However, this 3rd option will only allow for control via the IPOD. In addition, the OEM screen will remain blank while playing audio and will remain blank while scrolling thru the Ipod menus until actually playing a video. However it is obviously a far cheaper option. None of the above prices include installation.

Finally, I have to weigh in as well on the posts in which some become self appointed leo's and moral authorities. Some presume that those with these interfaces have them solely for the purpose of video in motion. They are incorrect. In my case it is for the purpose of being able to control the menus and view what I am calling up on the OEM screen. The rear entertainment system otherwise (which is for my small children) would have to be controlled from a passenger in the back actually viewing the rear screens (my children are to young to use the controls). It is for the convenience of viewing the menus if I am alone with my small children (while driving) that I chose this interface.

Moreover, I have to challenge these premises. It seems acceptable to some that you scroll thru endless screens in the I-drive for comfort, climate, NAV, entertainment and commo for minutes on end. Yet, viewing video is somehow different? All of these are distractions. That is why the safe and effective driver utilizes a scan technique which allows for viewing information- speed, fuel and yes the I-drive standard functions inside the cabin with the road and environment outside the cabin.

I have been to numerous safety courses, both auto and aviation and am trained in C3RM (Crew/cockpit/Cabin resource management as well as licensed to practice law in Illinois so I am fully aware of the law and the attendant risks and get a little incensed at those who feel the need to pontificate on the law and the presumed behavior or motivations of others.

There's also the Dietz interfaces which use the TV tuner spot as a 2nd A/V input, which allows the right hand OCB display to still be viewed when video is in progress.

[Penguin]

Originally Posted by AVATT

Some presume that those with these interfaces have them solely for the purpose of video in motion.

It might have something to do with the post starting the thread consisting of the single sentence:

"i have just purchased a 09/10 xdrive35d and want to know the best option for tv in motion."