X5 35d - Exhaust fluid

[Weasel]

On Funf's part# description there is 3 bottled billed out which means he's fully filled. On jgf's there is only 2 meaning he only has 5 gallons out of 6.5...

I've had that argument with our parts guys before. They sent out 5 gallons, I requested more and they said BMWNA didn't want to pay for 3 bottles because it leaves a gallon unused. I told the parts manager it isn't the service departments fault/problem and shouldn't be the customers problem. BMW needs to source 2 gallon or 3.25 gallon containers if they want the right amounts.

Been a while since I've done this so I need to ask if they got this straightened out ad what is currently allowed.

[FunfDreisig]

Originally Posted by Weasel

On Funf's part# description there is 3 bottled billed out which means he's fully filled. On jgf's there is only 2 meaning he only has 5 gallons out of 6.5...

I've had that argument with our parts guys before. They sent out 5 gallons, I requested more and they said BMWNA didn't want to pay for 3 bottles because it leaves a gallon unused. I told the parts manager it isn't the service departments fault/problem and shouldn't be the customers problem. BMW needs to source 2 gallon or 3.25 gallon containers if they want the right amounts.

Been a while since I've done this so I need to ask if they got this straightened out ad what is currently allowed.

I like the way you think Weasel

If BMW doesn't want to pay for an extra gallon of DEF they need to source the DEF in containers that add up to 6.5 gallons. It takes SIX 35d DEF flush and fills to completely eliminate 'waste' using the current 2.5 gal containers.

To put this in perspective, a gallon of DEF at VW and other reputable sources, costs well under $10 RETAIL. Now think about the value of jgf330xi's and the dealer's time to resolve this - DUH.

Funf Dreisig

[jgf330xi]

The Truck is in and they are to change the oil..

Will report back the amount of URea that they fill.

[Armand]

Originally Posted by 2010X5d

I got about 5400 miles on my 2010 35d. Three days back I got a warning message "No Start in 992 miles". It was there for a min and after I pressed OK it was gone.
I took it to the dealer, even they were not sure what it was and after talking between themselves and me explaining about what DEF is ( thanks to this forum ) they checked and finally gave me in writing as 'both tanks at same level'

Just concerned...am I OK ? or do I get stranded in any place due to this ignorant BMW service people?

Ran into a similar situation today. The DEF warning "No Start in 992 miles" came on at around 8,100 miles. Thanks to this forum, I was prepared for it though I thought it came on a bit early (the service indicator puts the first service at around 11,000 miles.) After I pressed OK, it stayed on for a while and then went away. Will be calling the dealer tomorrow. Any suggestions on what could be the cause? It was 80 degrees out so I can't imagine the passive tank had frozen! No other problems or issues. Thanks in advance.

[ard]

Originally Posted by Armand

Ran into a similar situation today. The DEF warning "No Start in 992 miles" came on at around 8,100 miles. Thanks to this forum, I was prepared for it though I thought it came on a bit early (the service indicator puts the first service at around 11,000 miles.) After I pressed OK, it stayed on for a while and then went away. Will be calling the dealer tomorrow. Any suggestions on what could be the cause? It was 80 degrees out so I can't imagine the passive tank had frozen! No other problems or issues. Thanks in advance.

I wouldn't waste my time with a dealer visit until the warning comes on and stays on....run the scenarios: if it really is an issue, you'll have time to deal with it; if it is just a fluke, the dealer will do nothing but suck up some of your time...or worse, maybe even infuriate you with a "You'll have to pay $314 for the DEF service since it isn't due for oil yet"... (This is in the BMW manual for "how to piss off new car buyers"...)


I ignored mine, never came back, did the oil service at 10k (+DEF service) and it's been fine since.

[BitXplant]

Originally Posted by FunfDreisig

So a careful shade tree mechanic could do a complete 6.5gal DEF fill up, using the easier to handle 1 gal containers, for less than $50, including the funnel

BTW has anyone used one of the special BMW DEF bottles that screw onto the DEF orifice? Are they reusable? IOW can you refill one of these fancy bottles so that there was no reasonable chance of overfilling the tanks or spilling any DEF under the hood?

Funf Dreisig

Funf,

Thanks for the input and having lived in Bitburg for a while your posting name made me laugh. To give back I stumbled upon a great tool for locating the AdBlue fluid when your out traveling. Go to FindAdBlue.com. It is a searchable site for stateside and overseas and will even break it down if they will service your X5, take credit cards, and more. Great site...now all I have to figure out where I can buy the oil for my X5, any suggestions?

I appreciate you,
Charles

[Noodles]

Had DEF warning last night as well @ 4300 miles. About 5 miles after that I had a engine malfunction sign crusing on highway. Nothing major, drove home. Took it to dealer this morning. Didn't get a chance to pull the code before dealer, since my bt tool is out of vins, i'll have to get a new one along with JBD soon. Anywhoo, they pulled the codes and on invoice, it was 4C9E & 4C9F. Just says associated with EGR valve. No hiccups or anything, runs like a champ. Been trying to dig around for the codes description but haven't found anything really.

I was aware of dealers not topping off the DEF outside of interval, but when I asked my SA how much it'd be to top it off, since i was prepared to just have them do it and pay to get it out of the way. He tells me don't worry, we're absorbing the cost on this one. Pretty cool dealer i have, they were the ones that helped me out with my e90 buyback resulting from 3 HPFP failures. Can't really complain.

[Armand]

Originally Posted by Noodles

Had DEF warning last night as well @ 4300 miles. About 5 miles after that I had a engine malfunction sign crusing on highway. Nothing major, drove home. Took it to dealer this morning. Didn't get a chance to pull the code before dealer, since my bt tool is out of vins, i'll have to get a new one along with JBD soon. Anywhoo, they pulled the codes and on invoice, it was 4C9E & 4C9F. Just says associated with EGR valve. No hiccups or anything, runs like a champ. Been trying to dig around for the codes description but haven't found anything really.

I was aware of dealers not topping off the DEF outside of interval, but when I asked my SA how much it'd be to top it off, since i was prepared to just have them do it and pay to get it out of the way. He tells me don't worry, we're absorbing the cost on this one. Pretty cool dealer i have, they were the ones that helped me out with my e90 buyback resulting from 3 HPFP failures. Can't really complain.

There's a bulletin out for DEF warning coming on before 5k miles. I suspect BMW knows some 35d's are being delivered with partially filled DEF reserves.

[ard]

I had mine go off once at about 1000 miles. Never recurred. 22k now.

DEF flush and fill at 10k. DEF fill at ~20k.

No 'problems' with the initial fill...no problems with the DEF control or pump...

See what happened in the next few days.

A

[Noodles]

Originally Posted by Armand

There's a bulletin out for DEF warning coming on before 5k miles. I suspect BMW knows some 35d's are being delivered with partially filled DEF reserves.

Ahh thanks for heads up. On another note..
-20F last nite, parked outside and start up wasn't a prob!!! I love this truck. Lol.