Any 35D Owners install this performance tune?

[Terry @ BMS]

Originally Posted by JCL

Which analog inputs do you read with the box?

It's not difficult to figure that one out, LOL.

No offense but clearly you're not up to speed on tuning and I don't have any intent to further along your education. I just wanted to post and refuse the obvious false claims you were making about our JBD tuner. But our offer still stands. Throw it on a dyno and see what you think and return it if it doesn't do what we claim it will. Tuned the X5D is a night and day difference vs. stock. Not bad for $279 and a few minutes of install/removal time.

[JCL]

Originally Posted by Terry @ BMS

It's not difficult to figure that one out, LOL.

No offense but clearly you're not up to speed on tuning and I don't have any intent to further along your education. I just wanted to post and refuse the obvious false claims you were making about our JBD tuner. But our offer still stands. Throw it on a dyno and see what you think and return it if it doesn't do what we claim it will. Tuned the X5D is a night and day difference vs. stock. Not bad for $279 and a few minutes of install/removal time.

You've got me confused with someone else. Read the whole thread if you like. I'm just pointing out the irony of the resistors. Most of my comments have been about the myth of tunes being undetectable now or in the future, and what the warranty impacts are.

[Fraser]

No such thing as a free lunch. Even the best of these after market diesel tune up gadgets will compromise fuel use, emissions or engine longevity, perhaps all three. If you are lucky you may get more performance.

[Kloogy]

If you are lucky ? Oh boy ....

[Aidan]

Originally Posted by Noodles

Which vehicles have you witnessed with first hand experience that were bmws? Ill throw out some more for you.

X6M Owner is from austria. ESS sent him a flash loader from u.s to austria. Look what Roman sent me ESS Software Flash Loader - XBimmers.com | BMW X6 Forum X5 Forum

X5M shop vehicle from gintani. Gintani's sneak perview X5M/X6M - XBimmers.com | BMW X6 Forum X5 Forum

OH BTW, these vehicles are both 2011.

And that'll b the last of me posting flash tunes in this thread, too OT and sorry to OP.

Before Christmas I had a customers 2010 BMW 320d (E90) which had anti-tuning software and could only be bench-flashed. I will get a list of BMW cars and post them up which is which.


EDC17 does not mean it is anti-tuning. Some BMWs began using EDC17 in 2006 and they were fine to flash. It is the newer type Bosch EDC17 anti-tuning ones you cannot do.
I don't know why people on here are so arrogant! I am sharing my first hand experience and yes I am aware some BMW ecu's are still not using anti-tuning but they are all going that way. Probably over the next year or two they will all be like that.
Will that stop tuning them? Never

[Aidan]

Originally Posted by Kloogy

Our buddy kept claiming all we would see were 2 wires. That's what was being disputed.

I think you do take too much sugar in your cornflakes in the mornings.

I claimed that you will find a resistor in the box and guess what I see in the photo Terry posted? 2 resistors!

So what is in that box?

2 RESISTORS.

There is a huge 28 pin chip in there also. This is used to allow for adjustment of the variable resistors.


Now to close on this one, as I have proved my point that those tuning boxes do is RESIST the signal going to the ECU I have typed up a paragraph on what I think of tuning boxes and this is my opinion on them. Yes I will generalise all resistor type tuning boxes as they can all be made at home with all the parts purchased from ebay for less than 30 or 40 usd. If you were buying them in bulk they would be much cheaper. Definitely a huge profit margin in them.

Tuning Boxes in my opinion.
Tuning boxes are the mother of all evil in this world of tuning. I am sure they were developed in a secret facility by satan himself and that is putting it mildly. With ECU remapping you change ALL the needed parameters that run your engine. A tuningbox just lies to your engine management system, throwing it off balance and feeding your engine the wrong amounts of fuel etc. Very often you will see powerboxes on ebay, which are basically two plastic plugs, a small box and a 5 cent resistor poured into black resin. Some of the more advanced ones will have 2 resistors and a chip to allow it to be adjusted, adjusting the power of signal going to the ECU. If you want to get rich quick with an astronomical profit margin you should start selling tuningboxes, because the company logo sticker on the outside is the most expensive part of it. Do they give you a noticeable effect? Yes, you will get some more performance, accompanied by a tail of black smoke and an engine that hates you forever. Still want to buy a tuningbox? Read this paragraph again.

[Aidan]

Originally Posted by SANguru

LOL @ lucky charms! I'm staying out of this one. Aidan - thanks for speaking up and removing all doubt that you are clueless.

Care to explain why or how in your opinion that I am clueless? The box has a resistor. The box only has a chip because it is variable. If it wasn't variable then it would only have the need for a single 5cent resistor.

Or maybe you are referring to the anti-tuning ECUs? Feel free to contact BMW regarding them. Yes some are using them so are not. They are relatively new so perhaps BMW are still running them on a trial basis but it is the way forward for them.

[Alpinedevil335]

Originally Posted by Aidan

I think you do take too much sugar in your cornflakes in the mornings.

I claimed that you will find a resistor in the box and guess what I see in the photo Terry posted? 2 resistors!

So what is in that box?

2 RESISTORS.

There is a huge 28 pin chip in there also. This is used to allow for adjustment of the variable resistors.


Now to close on this one, as I have proved my point that those tuning boxes do is RESIST the signal going to the ECU I have typed up a paragraph on what I think of tuning boxes and this is my opinion on them. Yes I will generalise all resistor type tuning boxes as they can all be made at home with all the parts purchased from ebay for less than 30 or 40 usd. If you were buying them in bulk they would be much cheaper. Definitely a huge profit margin in them.

Tuning Boxes in my opinion.
Tuning boxes are the mother of all evil in this world of tuning. I am sure they were developed in a secret facility by satan himself and that is putting it mildly. With ECU remapping you change ALL the needed parameters that run your engine. A tuningbox just lies to your engine management system, throwing it off balance and feeding your engine the wrong amounts of fuel etc. Very often you will see powerboxes on ebay, which are basically two plastic plugs, a small box and a 5 cent resistor poured into black resin. Some of the more advanced ones will have 2 resistors and a chip to allow it to be adjusted, adjusting the power of signal going to the ECU. If you want to get rich quick with an astronomical profit margin you should start selling tuningboxes, because the company logo sticker on the outside is the most expensive part of it. Do they give you a noticeable effect? Yes, you will get some more performance, accompanied by a tail of black smoke and an engine that hates you forever. Still want to buy a tuningbox? Read this paragraph again.

I hope no one on this forum takes you seriously. You have no idea what your talking about. STOP comparing stuff on eBay to the products that reputable companies like BMS offer. I've been using a tuning box on my car for about 40,000+ miles and no black smoke, no issues, no nothing! And I have pushed it to the absolute maximum. Just like many others have done the same.
The Internet is your friend, do your homework before you run your mouth. There are many many people on these forums that are very very knowledgeable on this subject that will not hesitate to tare you apart and prove you wrong. Just like we have seen here.
As far as your argument on the resistor thing, well it shows how clueless you are about the subject .

[SJCFlyer]

Wow! This seems to have gone from a discussion to something much more intense (right or wrong). Overall, I would rate this thread

[Kloogy]

If I go through my office and post how many items that have resistors on them, will you care to call them cheap Ebay stuff ? Hey, I think my computer that generates CAD drawings for me has resistors in it. It must be cheap Ebay stuff. How about this drawing desk ? I think the illumination system on it has resistors on it, it must be cheap Ebay stuff !! I wonder if BMW in a wild scheme to produce cheap ebay stuff, used a resistor anywhere in my X5 ????? OMG !!!!!