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Old 01-20-2011, 05:53 PM
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On a side note, I am also LMAO at the point it take months of tuning time to determine the appropriate algorithms
Yes these things actually do WORK. And you bet it took some time to make sure that these piggies are going to work safely on a $50,000+ car. They do as advertised because of the R&D that goes into them. They are not just thrown together like the gimmic crap they sell on eBay.

If its that simple as you claim, I challenge you to build your own and produce the same gains as the ones advertised. Good luck with that!
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Old 01-20-2011, 05:54 PM
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Yes these things actually do WORK. And you bet it took some time to make sure that these piggies are going to work safely on a $50,000+ car. They do as advertised because or the R&D that goes into them. They are not just thrown together like the gimmic crap they sell on eBay.

If its that simple as you claim, I challenge you to build your own and produce the same gains as the ones advertised. Good luck with that!
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Old 01-20-2011, 06:35 PM
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Yes these things actually do WORK. And you bet it took some time to make sure that these piggies are going to work safely on a $50,000+ car. They do as advertised because of the R&D that goes into them. They are not just thrown together like the gimmic crap they sell on eBay.

If its that simple as you claim, I challenge you to build your own and produce the same gains as the ones advertised. Good luck with that!
Aidan,

That seems like a reasonable gauntlet to throw down. If the piggyback devices are just a resistor or rheostat, and if you have this extensive experience in tuning BMWs, why not prove that you're right by making a $10 piggyback tuner box. Take a vid, put it up on Youtube, and prove you're right. Any reason you can't do that? The sellers of these devices have videos and dyno charts out showing the results--can you provide similar documentation beyond your comments alone?
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Aidan,

That seems like a reasonable gauntlet to throw down. If the piggyback devices are just a resistor or rheostat, and if you have this extensive experience in tuning BMWs, why not prove that you're right by making a $10 piggyback tuner box. Take a vid, put it up on Youtube, and prove you're right. Any reason you can't do that? The sellers of these devices have videos and dyno charts out showing the results--can you provide similar documentation beyond your comments alone?
Can I see the dyno charts please?

Once again I will simply explain that I did not come into this thread to slam a company. I did come into this thread to explain how tuning boxes work, what they do to the ECU and how they crudely force extra bhp from the engine.
I never advise people to buy or fit them but I never said they don't work. Yes they do their job of forcing extra bhp from the engine.

And again, I never come to this thread to slam a company.
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