Good bye E70, Hello Lexus GX460

[ukwildcat]

Originally Posted by rick chi-town

And so I was just trying to be "tactful" and sugar coat the Lexus... Man, you guys don't mess around, huh? Does anybody know Rufus? Maybe he'll really appreciate the Serta-like, milk truck ride of the Toyota truck, who knows. And I actually did believe they were at least fairly reliable... But not after reading some of these posts. But at least if it's not, they have a nice waiting room and a movie theatre.

It is really nice.

Good cookies too. And a soda machine. I was usually a sugared-up, caffeinated wreck by the time I went to leave my dirty-dishrag-washed car.

It's funny how I don't miss it.. Especially when I think about how my BMW only has to go in once a year, and the GX had to go in every three months. So I could pay to turn that annoying amber "SERVICE" light off.

[donibm]

I never understand these sort of posts because I've not experienced any issues with my X5. Nvr owned a Lexus, but I doubt I'd go "downhill" to a Lexus from a BMW anytime soon. Lot of them on the streets though, so they must be a good vehicle ... although boring to look at after all these years.

[midwest x6]

Originally Posted by donibm

I never understand these sort of posts because I've not experienced any issues with my X5. Nvr owned a Lexus, but I doubt I'd go "downhill" to a Lexus from a BMW anytime soon. Lot of them on the streets though, so they must be a good vehicle ... although boring to look at after all these years.

I really don't see one as going "downhill" over the other. Nor do I understand the general Lexus bashing in this thread

It's all about the product delivering the brand promise to a core, target consumer. Marketing 101.

Lexus does what their target wants them to deliver and does it very well; Reliable, comfortable to drive & luxurious

[Fraser]

Originally Posted by midwest x6

Reliable, comfortable to drive & luxurious

Depends on how you define "luxurious". One of my key luxuries is having something that handles properly. It's not just the cupholder count. Didn't the GX460 have a recall in the US for instability issues?

[midwest x6]

Originally Posted by Fraser

Depends on how you define "luxurious". One of my key luxuries is having something that handles properly. It's not just the cupholder count. Didn't the GX460 have a recall in the US for instability issues?

And I would argue neither you (nor me - see my previous vehicles!) are their core consumer....But overall, we'd probably agree that they build a vehicle that is luxurious by most standards and more reliable than not..

[Fraser]

Originally Posted by midwest x6

But overall, we'd probably agree that they build a vehicle that is luxurious by most standards and more reliable than not..

I still wouldn't bundled the Lexus GX460 (or the GX470, if that's what the previous model was called over there) with the various RX Lexus models. The former is based on a separate-chassis platform with a truck axle at the back while the latter are fully independently suspended monocoques.

[Viperfreak2]

Originally Posted by midwest x6

I really don't see one as going "downhill" over the other. Nor do I understand the general Lexus bashing in this thread

Try going into the Viper Alley forum and tell them you traded a Viper for a Corvette.

Both good cars, but one is just a little more hard core than the other with no electronic nannies. The other has PLENTY of trunk space....

Sometimes bashing is necessary.

[Jordo]

Originally Posted by Viperfreak2

Sometimes bashing is necessary.

I like this guy!

[donibm]

Originally Posted by midwest x6

I really don't see one as going "downhill" over the other. Nor do I understand the general Lexus bashing in this thread

It's all about the product delivering the brand promise to a core, target consumer. Marketing 101.

Lexus does what their target wants them to deliver and does it very well; Reliable, comfortable to drive & luxurious

All about perception I guess. To me, it's going DOWNHILL from a RR droptop to a base Bentley. It's going DOWNHILL from that Bentley to an Aston Martin. It's going DOWNHILL from an AM to a Jaguar ... to a Lexus ... to a Honda ... to a Kia ... to a peddle bike.

Again, all about perception.

I would'nt go DOWNHILL from a Bimmer to a Lex. Maybe "sideways" to an Audi though. :-)

[FSETH]

Originally Posted by donibm

Maybe "sideways" to an Audi though. :-)

That's more diagonal to the back than just sideways...