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Old 08-10-2011, 04:51 AM
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Rotating the tires

I have an 08 3.0 with Sports Pkg and std. 19" wheels. The car has only 28k miles but the fronts are wearing faster, especially on the outside. Do you folks see the same issue? I have the Bridgestone tires which are not directional, I am thinking of swapping the front wheels, anyone else done that?

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Time for an alignment. If the alignment is correct, tire rotation is not required.

You can rotate, even though it is not recommended, but you will sacrifice ride and handling, as the tires take a set from running a certain way.
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I rotated mine at 10 000km, the drive feel a bit wired on 1st day, but soon get used to it. Similar that wear more on front tyre outsite, but the service advisor & tyre shop said it is normal for X5, no alignment issue.
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Thanks for the replies. Will get the fronts swapped, these damn RFTs are expensive to be replacing every 30k miles.
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So I got the tires rotated. I cannot feel any difference in driving from earlier, it may be because the tires already have 30k miles on them. Nevertheless, reading from other threads it seems my tires are wearing quite well, hope to get at-least another 10k miles out of them after the rotation
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30k miles!! I got only 22k miles on my tires.
I did not rotate my tires, I purchase a set of Vredestein and what a deference.
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I rotated my tires and noticed no 'ride and handling' issues.

BMW decided to not recommend tire rotations as it would requore them to do it fro free under the free maintenance...and with the stupid long mileage intervals the tires would be well worn when they were rotated. But at 7500, 10k intervals it will be fine.

BMW likes to propagate this misinformation (that it will affect handling and ride)- but the tire manufacture THEMSELVES recommend rotations.

Many believe the BMW carp, service advisers, mechanics, others....
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Jeep;

This thread will help you understand why rotating tires is not needed.
http://www.xoutpost.com/bmw-sav-foru...mended-x5.html

I bought my X in 2005 and I have never rotated my tires not once.
In fact in all that time I have only had one alignment and my tires
have never worn unevenly. Of course I have never had run flats on the X.

We did remove RF's from the 535 within the first year and never looked back.
They turned out to be the worse set of tires we ever owned.
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If you read that thread above^^^ you will actually see why it IS necessary!

Many owners DO get uneven wear, while some do not- guess what? There is NO ONE ANSWER! If your alignment is perfect (ie somehow luckily, within the large BMW specs for alignmnet you get a good alignment) and your driving is such, you may get away without a rotation.

But if not, rotating tires will balance wear.

The truth as I stated above is that BMW has blasted the market (dealers, techs, salesmen, publications) with a concocted story to allow them to extend maintenance intervals to very long periods and cover it gratis....while the people that MAKE the tires still recommend rotations.

Uneven tire wear, cupping, noise, etc, are all zero concern to BMW= just an aftersales opportunity to sell new tires!
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Many owners DO get uneven wear, while some do not- guess what? There is NO ONE ANSWER! If your alignment is perfect (ie somehow luckily, within the large BMW specs for alignment you get a good alignment) and your driving is such, you may get away without a rotation.

But if not, rotating tires will balance wear.

The truth as I stated above is that BMW has blasted the market (dealers, techs, salesmen, publications) with a concocted story to allow them to extend maintenance intervals to very long periods and cover it gratis....while the people that MAKE the tires still recommend rotations.

Uneven tire wear, cupping, noise, etc, are all zero concern to BMW= just an aftersales opportunity to sell new tires!
Never let the facts get in the way of a good conspiracy theory.

If you get uneven tire wear, rotating them can extend the life of your already compromised tires. You will increase the time until you need replacement tires, reducing tire purchase cost, and give up something in terms of noise, ride, and handling.

The proper course of action is to correct the reason for the uneven tire wear. And if you inspect your tires regularly, you can catch it before you destroy a tire.

If rotating your tires does not increase noise, or harm ride or handling, then it is hard to believe that they needed rotating in the first place.

I put 70,000 km on my OE Michelin MXV4 tires on my X5, and they were wearing completely even. I sold it with the original tires, and they had lots of life left. I never rotated them, or got an alignment. I did inspect them regularly. I don't agree that I was somehow magically blessed. It is just proper PM procedures.

On my last car (535i) I had the wheels off twice a year at home (I had mounted snows on OE wheels). I always put them back in the same spot as they came off, as they were wearing completely even. Rotating would have had no benefit IMO, even though it was completely free and easy to do since all the tires were the same size. These tires were run flats (Dunlop), but the X5 tires were not. I don't see why this has anything to do with run flat technology, that is a red herring (but at least it isn't a carp).

If one believes that BMW promote this to reduce their maintenance expense in the US, then one has to ask what the rationale is for the rest of the world (including Canada) that doesn't have free unscheduled maintenance? It is illogical to assume that the BMW USA marketing department sets maintenance policies for the entire world. There may just be an engineering reason not to rotate tires.

Tire noise is of concern to BMW during the warranty period, as they end up hearing customer complaints. They are not promoting a non-rotation policy to sell tires, as they simply aren't in the tire business. Some dealers sell tires, but BMW doesn't. And the maintenance recommendations are from BMW, not dealers. They have nothing to gain by discouraging tire rotation, except improved vehicle performance, which is what they are all about.
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