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Old 10-13-2007, 08:57 AM
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So which one do I need guys ?

Damn! It's Just arrived...

New BMW DVD p/n T1000-11912, which looked to me to be just what I needed to complement the v29 upgrade to the Mk IV system in my 06/03 X5 3.0d Sport.

Took out the 2002-02 DVD p/n T1000-5385 which is so useless to me right now, I'm using TomTomn on my phone.

So I put in the new DVD and system rejects it completely. Says 'please insert correct DVD'. Aaaargh!

The original system has 3D-Perspective maps (albeit with minimal info), but I don't know if it's a Professional or High. I just assumed that if I am currently running a -2 then I need to replace with a -2 only a newer year of course. Am I now right in thinking that the 'Professional' DVDs are only for newer cars with I-drive? And that though my original 2002-02 DVD doesn't say 'High' , that that;s what it is?


Before I waste even more money, can anyone help me be sure that I need T1000-11916 (which is the 'High' DVD).

Thanks in advance.

Kev.
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Old 10-13-2007, 09:41 AM
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You need HIGH not Professional.

People get confused as BMW refer to the Mk4 system as Navigation Professional (and the small orange screen in the radio version as Navigation Business).

The 2002-2 is the 2nd release of 2002. They usually do two a year. The latest at the moment is 2007-2 but there will no doubt be a 2008-1 released in the near future.

The DVD should say whether it is HIGH or Professional on it - is it a copy?
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Old 10-13-2007, 10:00 AM
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Thanks for the advice again TD.

No, that's the thing - it's brand spanking new in a Shrink-wrapped BMW DVD case with glossy books and Navteq Hologram on the media ! Still no good to me though

The DVD that was in the car when I bought it is also an original but just says BMW Digitale Strassenkarte. BMW Digital Road Map, GB (+Dublin/Belfast). No mention of High or Professional. Did a search on the part number and not much help.

So easy mistake to make I reckon but I suppose a call to the dealer would have prevented it. Anyone wanting this DVD for the £40 I paid for it just PM me (sorry mods if this is not allowed here).

Alternatively, just have to ebay it on and look for a 'High' version....

Cheers Guys.

Kev

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Old 10-13-2007, 01:25 PM
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Just remembered why I thought it was 'Professional' that I needed. The build sheet shows option SA609 which is NavigationsSystem Professional.

Not that that changes much (still got the wrong DVD)... Oh, well, at least TomTom has postcodes...
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The 2002-2 is the 2nd release of 2002. They usually do two a year. The latest at the moment is 2007-2 but there will no doubt be a 2008-1 released in the near future.
Whilst your comment about regular updates may be true for your country, it is not true globally :-(

Sadly, here in New Zealand, the latest release is 2005-1, and BMW have not produced any releases in the last 2.5 years

I wish we had updates every 6 months, or even every year...

But for whatever reason, the local BMW dealers do not put the same effort into navigation as they do in other countries.....
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Old 10-13-2007, 02:55 PM
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I was going to say, have you tried the Navteq site? Over here BMW just re-label the Navteq DVDs (whch you could also buy direct from them).

Then I realised that Navteq don't even do maps for non-Euro/USA. So what do you guys use?

I suppose thats where the problem is.

Made me feel a bit better - but not much good for either of us is it?

How's the road development over there? If it's anything like here, you probably spend most of your time driving through fields according to the maps (and we know that X5s don't really like that ).

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I was going to say, have you tried the Navteq site? Over here BMW just re-label the Navteq DVDs (whch you could also buy direct from them).

Then I realised that Navteq don't even do maps for non-Euro/USA. So what do you guys use?

I suppose thats where the problem is.

Made me feel a bit better - but not much good for either of us is it?

How's the road development over there? If it's anything like here, you probably spend most of your time driving through fields according to the maps (and we know that X5s don't really like that ).

Kev
Over here the maps are based on data supplied by GeoSmart http://www.geosmart.co.nz/
These maps are NZ only.

In Australia they are provided by Whereis, and interestingly since map version V13, the Australian map also includes NZ data - I haven't seen it in action yet though. Be interesting to see what the difference is...
See here:
http://poweredby.whereis.com//shop/W...ine-Store.html
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Whilst your comment about regular updates may be true for your country, it is not true globally :-(
Mmmmm .... well, the way the town and highways planners in the UK change road layouts, put in traffic lights, roundabouts, re-prioritise junctions etc, we need updates every month.

The Navteq updates are at least 12 months behind 'real world' and they also have a habit of undoing updates - I speak from experience when my street was 'un-updated' in the 2006-1 DVD and after ranting at Navteq, they updated again for 2007-2 (street name was wrong)

However, our house was built in 2001, and they STILL haven't got our street numbering correct in 2007-2 dispite about 10 bug reports to them. Our house and about 10 others just don't exist - the house numbers jump from 18 to 36, and whilst there are natural gaps, if you select our house number it fails to find it and jumps to 36.

Oddly enough, my wife's Nav in her Toyota Prius is spot on, and that uses Navteq map data, so I am inclined to think that BMW don't pay Navteq for the very latest data, but charge an excessive amount to their gullible customers for the 'latest BMW map updates'
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