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Old 02-10-2014, 11:53 AM
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Navcoder 2.8.350 (64bit) not able to code VR?

Hi guys, any experience with using navcoder to enable VR for the ULF or Nav modules?

I've worked through the log files but can't see anything obvious, only this message which is a little weird to come from an E53 Diesel

08/02/2014 08:56:27.187: IKE --> GLO : Country coding status: Ntwk=E38/E39 Lang=IT_Italian Clock=24h OutTemp=C AvgSpd=km/h Limit=km Dist=km ArrTime=24h Consump=l/100_km Motor=Petrol


Also trying all of the possibilities (diff language order for the MK4 etc.), with a phone paired/connected and without, but not able to try a different ULF. Whatever I do I am unable to get the software to commit the setting to the ULF.

Here's what I'm trying




Have I missed something obvious (like I have to select the exact model etc.. etc. and query the VIN first etc. etc.) - I only have 3 days left to fix this or I'll have to take a hit on the price I sell the car for

The ULF clearly states (MIT SES) and is November 2005 so not the older type.

I was able to successfully code the 3rds language onto the MK4, so the software has worked for this part at least

As always, any help greatly appreciated.

Cheers, Kev.
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Old 02-10-2014, 12:05 PM
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when my car was "russified" in the Nav, and the verbal and visual directions were in russian, the SES module was still in english, and she would not understand any russian commands... the SES was integrated part of the ULF, like yours... I did not have to activate anything for it to work, it just worked...
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Old 02-10-2014, 12:12 PM
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Thanks, that ties in with what I was told by John (ccfj1) that it takes the language from the coding of the car (is this independent of the MK4)?

That said, the previous ULF was from a UK car and installed into my current Italian car and the VR was in English, so I assume my car was coded to English when I took it to my Indie in the UK a couple of years back.

To be honest I'd be glad just to hear the 'beep' when I hold the VR button on the wheel... then, if the language is English instead of French or Italian, it's not my problem, I've delivered a car with VR as promised....

I sent the log files off to Jochen but I guess he received hundreds per week so I'm not holding my breath...

But you're right - it should 'just work' as it did on all my previous cars (with even older ULF).
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Old 02-10-2014, 12:20 PM
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If you promised a VR, just look for stand alone SES unit on ebay... check out this one

BMW E38 E39 Voice Recognition Module Temic Communication ECU BCM 84416913352 | eBay
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Old 02-10-2014, 12:23 PM
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Thanks, that would be just right if I only I had the time to source and install it. But good to know for next time
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Old 02-10-2014, 02:26 PM
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The annoying part is, that it all looks as if it's working (as far as I can tell)...

9/02/2014 10:03:16.962: DIA --> TEL : Read coding data, Data="01" [ ]
09/02/2014 10:03:17.024: C8 07 3F A0 01 00 00 01 50
09/02/2014 10:03:17.024: TEL --> DIA : Diagnostic command acknowledged, Data="01 00 00 01" [ ]
09/02/2014 10:03:17.102: 3F 07 C8 09 01 00 01 01 F8
09/02/2014 10:03:17.102: DIA --> TEL : Write coding data, Data="01 00 01 01" [ ]
09/02/2014 10:03:17.165: C8 07 3F A0 01 00 01 01 51
09/02/2014 10:03:17.165: TEL --> DIA : Diagnostic command acknowledged, Data="01 00 01 01" [ ]
09/02/2014 10:03:17.274: 3F 07 C8 09 02 08 28 0A D1
09/02/2014 10:03:17.274: DIA --> TEL : Write coding data, Data="02 08 28 0A" [ ( ]
09/02/2014 10:03:17.336: C8 07 3F A0 02 08 28 0A 78
09/02/2014 10:03:17.336: TEL --> DIA : Diagnostic command acknowledged, Data="02 08 28 0A" [ ( ]
09/02/2014 10:03:17.800: F0 03 68 01 9A
09/02/2014 10:03:17.800: BMBT --> RAD : Device status request


So, something about the car and the ULF disagree (or the software isn't working properly).

Car is Italian E53 (FB71) but coded to UK, with Nav coded as GB,IT,FR
The replacement ULF was from UK, and from a 2005 E46.

Should I give up? Everything else works perfectly, and soon it won't be my car anymore.... ...perhaps I should leave well alone?

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