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bawareca 09-25-2015 09:16 AM

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Ricky Bobby 09-25-2015 09:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Joshdub (Post 1052361)
I don't know if the EPA has that kind of authority

You're correct they don't, and actually in many states, the cars ARE emissions compliant as ithey sit because there is no emissions testing in many states, or the standards are not as high as CARB.

JCL 09-25-2015 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Ricky Bobby (Post 1052391)
You're correct they don't, and actually in many states, the cars ARE emissions compliant as ithey sit because there is no emissions testing in many states, or the standards are not as high as CARB.

I don't think you can claim that they are emissions compliant because of a lack of state testing. They had to be federally compliant to be sold, and they weren't.

For those preferring to opt out of the VW fix and join the 'rolling coal' club, I would expect that relicensing will be a problem, as well as any warranty claims for those still under warranty.

JCL 09-25-2015 02:22 PM

Heads of development at Audi and Porsche resign.

Meanwhile, back at BMW, an X3 20d exceeds Euro 6 emissions limits by 11 times in an independent road test. BMW denies using defeat devices, as their shares drop 10%.

BMW Drops on Report That X3 Diesel's Emission Exceeded EU Limit - Bloomberg Business

This could be a hit that passenger car diesels don't recover from.

The Real Winner in the VW Diesel Scandal? Hybrid Cars | WIRED

MAK3N3 09-25-2015 05:45 PM

Nice time to buy Toureg TDI or Q7 TDI...just saying!

Joshdub 09-25-2015 07:04 PM

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Originally Posted by JCL (Post 1052414)
I don't think you can claim that they are emissions compliant because of a lack of state testing. They had to be federally compliant to be sold, and they weren't.

For those preferring to opt out of the VW fix and join the 'rolling coal' club, I would expect that relicensing will be a problem, as well as any warranty claims for those still under warranty.

Those who opt to not have theirs fixed are far from rolling coal.

JCL 09-25-2015 09:00 PM

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Originally Posted by MAK3N3 (Post 1052440)
Nice time to buy Toureg TDI or Q7 TDI...just saying!

From a dealer motivation standpoint, absolutely.

From a security of warranty and resale value perspective, time will tell.

Quicksilver 09-25-2015 10:05 PM

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Originally Posted by JCL (Post 1052470)
From a dealer motivation standpoint, absolutely.

From a security of warranty and resale value perspective, time will tell.

:rofl: Shopping for a X5 Diesel on Monday. Just checking….:dunno:

xbimma 09-26-2015 08:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Joshdub (Post 1052361)
I don't know if the EPA has that kind of authority

Looking at the notice of violation(posted by JCL above) EPA has a a more important authority in approving vehicle sales in the US. They successfully strong armed VW which was forced to admit cheating.

Joshdub 09-26-2015 10:23 PM

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Originally Posted by xbimma (Post 1052583)
Looking at the notice of violation(posted by JCL above) EPA has a a more important authority in approving vehicle sales in the US. They successfully strong armed VW which was forced to admit cheating.

Right. Pulling their certification for importing new cars is not the same as prohibiting registration of used and already in use vehicles. It'll be interesting to see how this plays out. While I do believe this will probably all blow over soon, I am glad I don't currently own a TDI due to the up coming potential hassle.


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