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bigcletus 09-18-2015 05:38 PM

VW Diesels
 
This looks nasty...and they got caught...

"The Environmental Protection Agency on Friday accused Volkswagen of installing software on 482,000 diesel cars in the U.S. to evade federal emission regulations, potentially exposing people to harmful pollutants.The German automaker adopted what the EPA called a "defeat device" to trick U.S. regulators into believing that its cars met Clean Air Act standards, the federal agency said in a statement.
The agency said the diesel cars that violated federal standard were the 2009-14 Volkswagen Jetta, Beetle and Golf, the 2014-15 Volkswagen Passat, and the 2009-15 Audi A3.
Those cars emitted nitrogen oxides, which can exacerbate respiratory conditions such as asthma, at up to 40 times the standard level, the EPA said.
Volkswagen admitted to investigators that it had installed the defeat device, the EPA said." ...(more)

EPA accuses Volkswagen, Audi of evading emission laws

Quicksilver 09-18-2015 05:41 PM

Awww shucks. Guess I'm gonna have to buy a 535d instead.

bmrboi2 09-19-2015 09:50 AM

Big deal.

Does anyone really give a hoot about what the EPA is Griping about today? They need to focus more on the problems they cause then something as ridiculous as this.

ChuckG 09-20-2015 12:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bmrboi2 (Post 1051551)
Big deal.

Does anyone really give a hoot about what the EPA is Griping about today? They need to focus more on the problems they cause then something as ridiculous as this.

I care a lot. I remember the days here in southern CA when the smog was so thick it burned your eyes and lungs.
Chuck

bawareca 09-20-2015 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by ChuckG (Post 1051609)
I care a lot. I remember the days here in southern CA when the smog was so thick it burned your eyes and lungs.
Chuck

:thumbup:

bigcletus 09-20-2015 01:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChuckG (Post 1051609)
I care a lot. I remember the days here in southern CA when the smog was so thick it burned your eyes and lungs.
Chuck

I'm no enviro-nut, but I do care about what I breathe, and "truth in advertising". I do hope VW gets slapped down for this.

apw2607 09-20-2015 06:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bmrboi2 (Post 1051551)
Big deal.

Does anyone really give a hoot about what the EPA is Griping about today? They need to focus more on the problems they cause then something as ridiculous as this.

Yes, but they also need to make sure the epa numbers being reported are actually near to real world.

motordavid 09-20-2015 08:16 PM

No dawg in the fight, but other than creative/sneaky programming on VW's part, having the full tilt boogie emissions system kick in only when being 'read' at inspection, is either bad luck, stupid decision, corporate crap, or quirk of fate...

I suspect 2 & 3.

No EPA fan here: the general process of the EPA being anointed a long, long time ago to 'enforce' and now, dream up new regs and new methodologies for many situs, and their lately using IRS like arbitrary decisions, gives one pause. Add in that the current regs were composed/supported by our elected idiots, and some gangs of lobbyists of one ilk or another.

If VW really did what CARB and the EPA suggest, then shame on them. It is normal corporate dodge ball, but that kind of crap along with Hyundai, et al fudging on the Hwy mpg is slime wad action supported either tacitly or covertly by the high suits.

I suspect some real stinging fines, though the pre fine negotiations are in full arm wrestle mode at the moment.
GL, mD

josiahg52 09-21-2015 07:25 AM

Makes me want to buy a VAG diesel.

Aquamania 09-21-2015 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by bigcletus (Post 1051649)
I'm no enviro-nut, but I do care about what I breathe, and "truth in advertising". I do hope VW gets slapped down for this.


:iagree:


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