not quite clones i didnt say uniforms but some proper etiquete never hurt anyone. if parents dont educate then someone must otherwise we get a very uncivilized looking society, look at europe does anyone walk around with pants on their ankles? a guy is dressed well and a woman looks like a lady even if she is a tramp. and let me ask you something how do you think people in the "real world" look? I work on Wall Street and everyone wears a suit thats a shirt, pants, jacket and tie for those who arent familiar with the concept. everyone looks the same but everyone looks good. i figure you feel the way you dress if you dress like crap you feel like it if you dress fine you feel fine each is a direct result of the other

as for the M3 i've quite frankly lost count of the cars you have so between the x, the m the rover and the other countless vehicles you mentioned i'm not sure if you just own a dealer lot or just obnoxiously rich

I applaud the school for this. Dress codes help minimize distractions to facilitate a better learning environment. Baggy pants, revealing tops etc. are ways in which kids express themselves, and weekends and after school that's fine. Actually, when I see kids going/coming to school the so-called fashions they wear already make them look like clones. And I think that choice is fine.

Cell phones should absolutely be band from school! Why do they need a phone in class - talk about a distraction. It's bad enough in the gym etc, but IMO cell phones are worse offenses than clothes and the penalty for them in the classroom should be even stronger.

Although I don't see how these 2 statements are related, I agree with your first point. Uniforms should be brought back which will eliminate the fashion struggle in schools. Good suggestion Ryan.:thumbup:

cellphones should not be allowed, we all surived fine without them, why teach kids at this age to be dependant on them. i remember doing math without a calculator and i got to school and these kids cant add 2+2 without a calculator, in my college 50% couldnt read a g-d dam meter stick and it was a technical university thats just absurd.

See I'm different, my parents DEMANDED I always have my cell phone with me, at all times, no exceptions except for work and thats just how we we're brought up, in So Cal, cell phones are not really some big deal, EVERYONE has em, I've had once since I was 14 or something, I wish we we're like Europe, I always dress very good, never revealing or baggy but its not a priority here like it is in Europe, clothes are a persons expression and that should not be taken away

clothes are a persons expression unfortunately we are influenced by the wrong impression, in Europe you dont have trailer park trash and rappers wana bees walking around its a bit more curbed and for good reason. the whole manner and style is different in Europe and the fact that you've had a cell phone since 14 doesnt say much because that puts you and me in the same age group and i didnt have one until 18 and it was strictly for emergency use it wasnt until later that i found it a convenience, but i dont see how a 11 yr old such as my cousin should need a cell phone for. They are not that important

Sure it is, my cousins 8 and she has one, it's so her parents can get ahold of her

Not required. Parents should know where their 8 year old is every minute. Therefore parents have no need to get a hold of someone who they already have a hold on.

I guarentee parents don't always know where their kids are at all times and those that do are simply foolish