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Originally Posted by BMW X5

not quite clones i didnt say uniforms but some proper etiquete never hurt anyone. ...

I know I am going to get killed by all of you young men and women who just got out of the school system or are still in it but here is what I think. There is nothing wrong with school uniform. Actually I even think that wearing a uniform, like a lot of kids in the UK do, is probably a very good idea. Every kids, poor or rich wear the same thing and there is no jalousie about who wears the latest Nike shoes or North Face backpack. IMO

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Originally Posted by asawadude

As a parent of 3 teenagers, I've gone through all of these issues.

Some of you who don't have childen need to attend some parent teacher meetings to hear the reasons why dress codes are required. The main concern with clothing issues here in L.A. schools is directly related to gang signage. There is certain apparel that is affiliated with particular gangs that the school administrators do not want present on the campuses. The last thing I need is for my sons or daughter to get shot because they were wearing a professional team jersey affiliated with a gang.

Cellphones belong in the hands of children who are old enough to be responsible users. I believe they have no place with childen of elementary and middle school age. The school administrators will gladly allow the children to make emergency phone calls as well as get messages to the children.

In high school, it's different. The high school kids are going to carry their phones and it is allowed but with definite rules. Teachers do not want students placing calls or text messaging in class; they don't want them to put their crib notes in their phones, using the calculators, or googling test answers. But many teachers have found away around this - they simply collect cellphones at the beginning of class and return them after class. Any student using a cellphone during class has their phone confiscated; a parent must come pick up the phone from the administration office. Cellphones are needed; if my kids are not following their normal routine, I need them to call me or my wife if they staying for extra basketball practice, going to a friends house, going shopping etc. The payphones in the campus are frequently vandalized and are not working, so the cellphone is a must.

but what did we do before we had cellphones? now i know you might say well before cell phones the world wasnt what it is today but its all relative to the time

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Originally Posted by alpac

:iagree: absolutely, when I was growing up in Ukraine a school uniform for both boys and girls was mandatory. I'm not sure that I fully agree with it only because it turns school into a military type of an environment but it definitely would get rid of jealousy as well as other things that could cause problems between kids. even if uniforms arent inforced I think some form of at least proper attire should be required starting with no pants below the waist line. Thats just plain disgusting

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Originally Posted by blondboinsd

Noone knows where someone is at ALL times

the most ridiculous thing i've heard from you yet. Of course no one knows when you go to the restroom or when you are in between classes and exactly where in the hallway you are and your latitude and longitude coordinates but i'm sorry if a parent doesnt know that a child is at school theres a problem with the child and the parent ESPECIALLY AT 8 YEARS OLD. This is where parenting comes in to make sure the kids hang out with the right kids and the parents must know who the parents of their kids friends are etc.... all goes into good parenting, i'm no genious hell i'm only 24 with no kids but i've been raised pretty darn well to know right from wrong which is more than i can say for kids now and that all goes back to the fact that they are all spoiled by the cellphones and by the total freedom they have of wearing anything or nothing

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Originally Posted by BMW X5

First off I'm sure i'll get flamed for saying I don't think your ideals would make you a very good parent then, noone knows where their kids are at all times and I think the fact my parents took additional measures beyond just trusting parents makes them better parents

what did your parents do when you were 8? if you are my age then at 8 there was not even a concept of a cell phone

i agree with getting a cellphone for a teen who is beginning to go out and starts driving its an important accessory to have in case there's an accident or some other sort of trouble but i'm sorry there is absolutely no need to have a cellphone at school. First you see your classmates/friends in the hall and you dont need to call them, second you dont need to call your parents to tell them anything, in case you do theres always the nurses office the deans office counselors office and you can request to speak in confidentiality. between school and home your parents should generally know your route and if you divert from it at a reasonable rate it will not be bad. but a cellphone in the hands of an 8yr old is pointless just like in the hands of my 11yr old cousin the concept of which i still dont understand.

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Originally Posted by BMW X5

what did your parents do when you were 8? if you are my age then at 8 there was not even a concept of a cell phone

Hence the reason I believe If I didn't dislike kids i'd give mine cell phones but since I refuse to have kids, it doesn't matter :thumbup:

you lost me on this one. i said what did YOUR PARENTS do when YOU were 8 i didnt ask you what you would do if you had kids

My parents did their best to put their trust in parents that were sometimes and sometimes not reliable