WARNING: Political Thread
 

WARNING: The following is a political thread and all those wishing to not be involved in a political discussion should hit the back button in their browser now.

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This is going to go on some political tangents.....hold on to your seat!

http://www.cnn.com/2006/POLITICS/10/....ap/index.html

What is the deal here? Why is it that the Bush Administration and Republicans in Congress are now blaming the whole North Korea deal on Clinton? Clinton, wasn't he President about, oh, nearly a decade ago? This Congress is so worthless they almost make the administration look sane.

And while on the topic of Congress, have you ever heard of a sitting Congress with more "personal issues"? The latest debacle is Foley and his 'Queer eye for the Straight Guy' approach to the help. I'm not even going to get into all the lobbyist fraud or Tom DeLay. Seems this Congress has just a ton of issues and has done very very little for the country. Aside from giving themselves a raise, what have they done?

They gave the 'OK' to a 700 mile fence line for Mexico, with no funding?? Sounds a lot like the 'no child left behind' BS from a few years back.

They did absolutely nothing about gas prices, aside from changing all states from MBTE to 10% Ethanol, which raised the cost of fuel. Allowing fuel companies to raise the average cost of fuel for the USA by nearly a dollar (but since it came down to 2.39 from 3.45 people seem to forget it was around 1.90 before).

The whole government in general did nothing about Katrina or FEMA.

They keep telling the country to 'stay the course' in Iraq, well...what is the course exactly? Has anyone seen this grand plan that tells us exactly how and when our troops would stop hanging around Iraq? The Military is meant to go in, kick @ss and return home. Not act as a roaming police force. And please, could the media stop going on like the death toll in Iraq is high. Take a look at other WARS that have taken less time, much higher death totals. I guess the big mistake was declaring the war over when it wasn't. As was said before the USA has a great force for destroying a country, not occupying it. Occupation seldom works out in the history of things.

Iran & N. Korea well, its kind of hard to say "we want negotiations and dialogue" when you refuse to talk directly to the country itself. All these 5 party, 6 party, etc. talks are worthless. And lets stop looking to the UNSC, they obviously blow. And on the N.K. tip, sounds like something Japan, S.Korea and China should be working out, not the USA. Of course, like Winne the Pooh, you stick your hands in the honey pot once to often and get stuck.

And as for the USA being involved all around the world and countries saying "USA stop getting involved" well, lets look at what the world did when the USA was practicing (for the most part) isolationism....oh, WWI and WWII...yah great track record :)

Well this should give us a lot of area for debate, remember, no personal attacks!!

Personally I think the North Korea thing is all down to the fact that Japan has just dropped the price on the PS3

Now I have hit the back button :rofl: :nanana:

The reaction to the various "issues" in Congress in interesting. They want to strip Foley's retirement pay now, to make themselves look holy just before the election.

I don't remember, and I doubt they did, do the same thing for Delay, who is actually on trial (actionable evidence, unlike Foley).

Politics as usual.

Bush apparently to have news conference today, BTW.

This is the Bush adminstration, do we need to say ANY more?

Interesting Factoid
 

From MSNBC.com:

Seventy percent say they are talking politics with family and friends, and 43 percent are debating the issues at work. Among churchgoers, 28 percent share their political views, a number that rises to 34 percent among the congregations in the South.

So, it's not just on this forum. There is more interest in the US in politics than there has been in a long while.

The more people are engaged, the better the process is. Maybe it's good.

If you're going to point the finger, make sure you lend a hand.


I have to say that I have no problem with people criticizing the government, I think all politicians are corrupt, BUT, it does nothing to help solve problems if the criticism isn't followed by an alternate plan.

The alternate plan:elect a democrat :)

I think the only way people really change in our government is when heat is brought on them, because of that I think criticism is constructive

It is all Barbara Streisand's fault for cussing out the audience....:rofl: