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bjo 02-06-2007 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Eric5273
[sarcasm]Wouldn't an occasion terrorist attack accomplish the same thing?[/sarcasm] :confused:

Uh yeah suuuuurrreee...Except terrorist attacks target older civillians.

bjo 02-06-2007 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Eric5273
Last time I checked, both of those countries have a higher average standard of living than does the United States. What exactly are we #1 in?

What does standard of living have to do with it?

What does NZ or Finland do in the world? Do most countries ask them for financial or military help? Do they innovate products or industry? Do other countries try to emulate their success?

the head 02-06-2007 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by bjo
What does standard of living have to do with it?

What does NZ or Finland do in the world? Do most countries ask them for financial or military help? Do they innovate products or industry? Do other countries try to emulate their success?

In all fairness NZ is the best extreme sports destination in the world

Finland....hmmmm.....Finlandia vodka?

and Eric if you don't like the system but are CHOOSING TO GET PAID BY IT you are simply the HYPOCRITE I thought you were

while your bleeding heart is in dollars rebound is correct that you need to look at it in percentages

also another country with very low military spending is Iceland which also has the highest rate of alcoholism per capita of any nation so your low military spending could potentially turn us all into alcoholics...at least this is a potential issue since the entire social structure of the country is based on percentages (or dollars) spent on the military

The Cleaner 02-06-2007 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Eric5273

So by that measure, our military should be 100 times the size and power of North Korea. Is it? Truely doubtful. But then, that is not the goal of spending all of that money. The goal is simply to spend the money. The military budget is maybe 25% real military spending and 75% overbloated corporate welfare.

Size is not the only measure of ones Military might. I do however agree with you for the first time. Getting what we pay for is what we need more of.

When you are looking to point fingers at what cost us the most and we get the least check public school before the Military, last I checked 50% of my taxes are paying for that and it's as broken as anything I can think of.

Eric5273 02-06-2007 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by bjo
Uh yeah suuuuurrreee...Except terrorist attacks target older civillians.

So the lives of older people are more important than the lives of children? I think most people would disagree with that. Ask most parents if their lives are more important than their children, and I think you will find most think exactly the opposite. Most parents would gladly give their lives to save their children.

Eric5273 02-06-2007 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by bjo
What does standard of living have to do with it?

What does NZ or Finland do in the world? Do most countries ask them for financial or military help? Do they innovate products or industry? Do other countries try to emulate their success?

Well, one thing that comes to mind is Nokia. More cell phones from from Finland than any other country. And yes, Nokia is one of the most innovative companies in the telecommunications industry, and they have more than double the market share of any other cell phone company.

Not bad for a country that has less than 2% of the population of the United States.

bjo 02-06-2007 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Eric5273
So the lives of older people are more important than the lives of children? I think most people would disagree with that. Ask most parents if their lives are more important than their children, and I think you will find most think exactly the opposite. Most parents would gladly give their lives to save their children.

what the hell, are you talking about? Nothing in my previous posts say that.

bjo 02-06-2007 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Eric5273
Well, one thing that comes to mind is Nokia. More cell phones from from Finland than any other country. And yes, Nokia is one of the most innovative companies in the telecommunications industry, and they have more than double the market share of any other cell phone company.

Not bad for a country that has less than 2% of the population of the United States.

So Nokia then. Wow, all we have is Cisco, IBM, Boeing, J&J, Google, Sun, Motorola, Apple.......

Eric5273 02-06-2007 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by The Cleaner
Size is not the only measure of ones Military might. I do however agree with you for the first time. Getting what we pay for is what we need more of.

When you are looking to point fingers at what cost us the most and we get the least check public school before the Military, last I checked 50% of my taxes are paying for that and it's as broken as anything I can think of.

50%?? :rofl: :rofl: :bustingup :bustingup :lmao: :lmao:


I'm not sure what your local and state taxes are, because that varies by state and City.

But with regard to any Federal Taxes you pay, including Federal Income Tax:

Last year, the Federal Budget was $2.77 trillion, of which $56 billion was for the Dept. of Education, making a wopping 2.02%.

And this year, Bush's budget is being raised to $2.9 trillion, but he has proposed the same $56 billion for the Dept. of Education, or 1.93% of the Federal Budget.

Wagner 02-06-2007 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Eric5273
Well, one thing that comes to mind is Nokia. More cell phones from from Finland than any other country. And yes, Nokia is one of the most innovative companies in the telecommunications industry, and they have more than double the market share of any other cell phone company.

Not bad for a country that has less than 2% of the population of the United States.


S T R E T C H - to make your point :) Most other cell phone makers don't focus on cell phones as the majority of their sales. But back to the point at hand, I think we all agreed that the military budget is necessary to secure the homeland, so to speak. Any did anyone else bring up the notion that military spending is for more then just weapons?


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