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Curious Joel 03-06-2007 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by noncom23
Like they need a reason.:confused:

I agree. They don't need a reason to jack up gas prices. If they're going to do it, they're going to do it. Our country (and the world, for that matter) is so dependent on petroleum that we'd really have no choice but to keep on paying whatever they ask. Perhaps once we become like Europe, with their $4-6/gallon gas, Americans will start seriously thinking about the advantages of diesel, and start looking more seriously at efficient alternative energy sources. We'll eventually have to anyway, considering we're using fossil fuels at a rate way above the sustainable yield, so I don't think the government should put off development/refinement of these technologies.

Wagner 03-06-2007 05:24 PM

We already hit near 4.00/gallon last year...that did nothing. It isn't that people don't realize the costs are insane, it is "what do we do to stop it?"

The Cleaner 03-06-2007 05:25 PM

It's not popular to say, but the sooner gas it at 4+ dollars the better. To many people driving that don't have to. Move some of the SUV's off to the scrap heap as well. I think a commuter tax would be great also. There is no reason someone should spend 45-90 minutes on the road every day is a single occupancy vehicle to get to work. Move closer to work use public transportation or get a new job.

the head 03-06-2007 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by rayxi
Where would you keep it, in your basement? :rofl:

Well I already buy 55gal drums of race fuel (which I store at one of my buildings) I could just as easily add an above ground tank like they use at small airports for AV gas they are big enough to hold a tanker truck worth of go juice...Or I could put up a gravity feed pump like they use for Ag fuel on a farm...or you could purchase an old gas station...it doesn't take a lot of thought

rayxi 03-06-2007 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Quicksilver
I appreciate your comments but this issue is based on the evidence provide by the experts in the field who have already done the studies and arrived at the conclusions that we are paying to much based on this practice. (Read the article. Your opnions were already covered) If there were no evident different temperature issues that effected the cost for consumers then there would have been no need to bring it up. ;)

I'm not paying too much. It's well below the pump calibration temperature more than half the year here. I figure I'm ahead by at least $0.38 a year. Woohoo! ;) [edit] I stand corrected. Or rather, the Canadian pumps stand corrected. We use a temperature sensor in our pumps to make corrections back to the reference of 15 C. I guess they want their $0.38 from me.

And I would hardly call The Kansas City Star an authority on physics.

Wagner 03-06-2007 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by The Cleaner
It's not popular to say, but the sooner gas it at 4+ dollars the better. To many people driving that don't have to. Move some of the SUV's off to the scrap heap as well. I think a commuter tax would be great also. There is no reason someone should spend 45-90 minutes on the road every day is a single occupancy vehicle to get to work. Move closer to work use public transportation or get a new job.

WOW, that commentary just made a lot of assumptions..but I do agree with some aspects. Except in the "move closer to work" line. There are people, a large amount of people, that can't afford to live where they work. So to simply right it off as "move closer" is BS unless you can change the entire real estate market. I agree that there are too many drivers on the road that don't need to be there. For one, SHIPPING TRUCKS. I can't remember who it was running the commercial..but it was about a shipping company moving away from highway shipping to rail shipping. We also need to demand more in that hydrogen technology, it should be here and available in the next 5 years, not 15 years. Manufacturers have been playing with Hydrogen for over a decade.....think of where you cell phone has gone in a decade because the demand was there.

the head 03-06-2007 05:46 PM

Public transport is an infrastructure issue I live in a city that has horrid public transport...the city has just finished putting up 4 new parking ramps downtown though...as for the rail comment good call you can hold twice as much stuff in a boxcar then in a tractor trailer...we use it to transport appliances rail is great if the industrial area is built for it...but out of our 7 warehouses in the midwest only one has a rail spur...it is not common enough and it is definately not cost effective to unload at a rail depot and transport across town

Quicksilver 03-06-2007 05:54 PM

Come on. You actually believe The Kansas City Star is an authority on physics and they made the whole thing up. :dunno: Please..:confused:

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Originally Posted by rayxi
And I would hardly call The Kansas City Star an authority on physics.


Quicksilver 03-06-2007 06:04 PM

That's great for you. But for others the picture may not be so rosey.

http://www.kansascity.com/mld/kansascity/15370193.htm

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Originally Posted by rayxi
I'm not paying too much. It's well below the pump calibration temperature more than half the year here. I figure I'm ahead by at least $0.38 a year. Woohoo! ;) [edit] I stand corrected. Or rather, the Canadian pumps stand corrected. We use a temperature sensor in our pumps to make corrections back to the reference of 15 C. I guess they want their $0.38 from me.

And I would hardly call The Kansas City Star an authority on physics.


The Cleaner 03-06-2007 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by WagnerX5
WOW, that commentary just made a lot of assumptions..but I do agree with some aspects. Except in the "move closer to work" line. There are people, a large amount of people, that can't afford to live where they work. So to simply right it off as "move closer" is BS unless you can change the entire real estate market. I agree that there are too many drivers on the road that don't need to be there. For one, SHIPPING TRUCKS. I can't remember who it was running the commercial..but it was about a shipping company moving away from highway shipping to rail shipping. We also need to demand more in that hydrogen technology, it should be here and available in the next 5 years, not 15 years. Manufacturers have been playing with Hydrogen for over a decade.....think of where you cell phone has gone in a decade because the demand was there.


I actually ratchet the post down a lot from what I wanted to say. I don’t really buy the argument that people can’t afford to live close to work. In fact one can argue it’s more expensive to drive 50 miles each way to get to work than it is to buy closer to work.

Bridges in the bay area are 4-5 bucks a day and many people have to cross 2 per day, diving 25k miles a year will wear out a car every 5 years, so thats about 25 dollars a day in car payments. Add in lets say 5 gallons of gas a day at 3 bucks is 15 more dollars a day. So just to get to work we are talking roughly 45 bucks a day, average 21 working days a month and you have 945 dollars a month to get to work. I don’t include insurance or cost of your time in that calculation. It’s a generally fair number. 945 paid into a mortgage can significantly improve your buying power.


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