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Meiac09 06-13-2008 10:45 PM

I have an idea. If you want wealth... Earn it!
It doesn't affect me one bit, I go to college, but honest-to-god, why should people be paid for nothing, and why should those who earned it lose. Nobody should get a free ride.

Like the story of the triple deckers... Husband "moves" upstairs, wife claims social security for being "abandoned"

We're right back where we were in 2000. And 2004. Two sh*tty candidates. One young, naive and inexperienced, has loads of "groupies" who pester people to vote for him; the other old, bitter, wants his turn on the joyride.
Ohhh, Cannnn-a-daaaaaa :tgif:
:tsk:

Quicksilver 06-13-2008 10:51 PM

No politics for me my friend. I prefer common sense. That is what we're talking about right? How long do you think people are going to cop to that? :rofl:

Quote:

Originally Posted by motordavid
Since I sense, (that's an unusual line), that QwkAg and I seem surprisingly to be in the same zip code on general political terms, I think he & I should team up and run for King & RightHandMan... We could alternate the positions every 3 months or so...

I think a year or two of us'uns making proclamations, orders and decisions,
would help fix this country.


AzX5 06-14-2008 10:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Quicksilver
To repeat MD's words.........

And, other than the "executive order approach", which the current genius prez may
have worn out, there is little that can be pushed through Congress, without an extra
500 pages of pork/deals in any bill and the lack of consensus there, except for filling
their pockets and making more ineffective "work" & rules, for the US citizens.
What a quagmire...

And this is one of the best reasons to vote for McCain. He WILL veto any bill with pork attached to it. He has promised this and I have no reason to doubt he will follow through with it.

It is pathetic that these are the only two real choices we have to be ruler of the free world though...

B-Line 06-14-2008 12:46 PM

If the Democrats can't figure out a way to make this country work on the high taxes I'm already paying, thank you, my vote is gonna swing Republican.

motordavid 06-14-2008 02:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by B-Line
If the Democrats can't figure out a way to make this country work on the high taxes I'm already paying, thank you, my vote is gonna swing Republican.

I realize most here have spent less time on the planet, than others or,
have short memories and/or react to the news reactionaries...

A brief history of the Political Party Affiliation of the Congress and Senate,
going back to 1999-2001 session:

106th '99-'01
House 221 Rep 212 Dem
Senate 55 Rep 45 Dem

107th '01-'03
House 221 Rep 212 Dem
Senate 50 50

108th '03-'05
House 229 Rep 205 Dem
Senate 51 Rep 48 Dem

109th '05-'07
House 231 Rep 202 Dem
Senate 55 Rep 44 Dem

110th '07-'09
House 199 Rep 236 Dem
Senate 49 49

"Taxes" that impact most of us today, didn't arise in the last 20 mins or
even 20 months. The Reps have held a number advantage in House from
1995, until the last election congressional election.

I am not for either "party"...I just thought we might have a lil'review of
who "controlled" the House/Senate for the past 13+ years.

It's fun to watch the candidates throw bs around...and, interesting to
read some/most of the political posts here. I suspect most of you dear
readers slept through Poli Sci 101 and never took another PoliSci course
after that Fresh Req, ;)

MrLabGuy 06-14-2008 02:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AzX5
And this is one of the best reasons to vote for McCain. He WILL veto any bill with pork attached to it. He has promised this and I have no reason to doubt he will follow through with it.

Here is a something everyone should strongly consider when they vote.

Earmark provisions...Pork at its finest usually slipped in at the last minute into legislation used to funnel cash into a politicians district for a specific project, company or neighborhood.

Total Earmarks

McCain 0 (ZERO)

Obama 113 (ONE HUNDRED AND THIRTEEN and counting)

Now consider that McCain has been in the Senate since 1987 and Obama since 2005.

B-Line 06-15-2008 02:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by motordavid
It's fun to watch the candidates throw bs around...and, interesting to
read some/most of the political posts here. I suspect most of you dear
readers slept through Poli Sci 101 and never took another PoliSci course
after that Fresh Req, ;)

MD,

You hit the nail on the head. Some of the best cat naps I've ever had were during Poli Sci 101.
Having said that, I no little to nothing about the way our system of gov't works. That is also why I don't usually vote. Popular vote, super delegates, primary's, etc. To be honest, none of it makes any sense to me. It's more confusing than trying to use a bidet and at least a bidet makes you feel clean and fresh, unlike politics.

That whole chart you put up, actually means nothing to me. I haven't a clue what it means. Should I be embarassed about that, probably, but why can't we just make the system normal, easy.

I even watched that movie Recount on HBO, I'm hoping the English language version comes out soon.

Here are the two things that are most impt. to me in the next election.
1) International Policy
2) Taxes and Economy

I believe both candidates are reasonably good men. They both seem to have good intentions and an ability to execute. At the very least, their both better than Bush.

I'm not going to get caught up in the "Change" campaign though. Cause I believe that both of them want a better America.

Either way, either candidate is going to have a real tough 4-8 years.

LeMansX5 06-15-2008 11:03 AM

No matter who we vote for we should at the least look for entertainment value provided by the candidate. Both Bush and Clinton have provided good entertainment. Of the current candidates I believe McCain has more potential to provide that, but you never know what Obama has up his sleeve.
Here are some entertaining YouTube videos on Bush:

Drunk bush
President Bush Drunk Again
GWB insults blind/handicap reporter
LETTERMAN 'TOP TEN GEORGE W. BUSH MOMENTS'
George W. Bush Intelligent President
Funny Bush
Is Bush an "Idiot"?
Funny - simple Q

Bushes dumbest Moments
What?

JonK 06-16-2008 04:00 AM

I still ain't voting for the old man. Well it is not my first time that I got my (lunch) money taken before. At least I have all the reason not to have taxable income higher than 200k/yr.

IMO It is a really really bad idea.

Wagner 06-16-2008 07:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LeMansX5
No matter who we vote for we should at the least look for entertainment value provided by the candidate. Both Bush and Clinton have provided good entertainment. Of the current candidates I believe McCain has more potential to provide that, but you never know what Obama has up his sleeve.
Here are some entertaining YouTube videos on Bush:

Drunk bush
President Bush Drunk Again
GWB insults blind/handicap reporter
LETTERMAN 'TOP TEN GEORGE W. BUSH MOMENTS'
George W. Bush Intelligent President
Funny Bush
Is Bush an "Idiot"?
Funny - simple Q

Bushes dumbest Moments
What?

tru dat.


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