How about a Decade of declining temperatures?

Funny how the global warming crowd never talks about the giant glowing ball we see in the sky sometimes. I seem to remember holding my hand up to the "SUN" and feeling a warming sensation on my hand. I wonder if it goes through cycles:dunno:...Hmmmmm. Solar cycles.

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I am not saying I have all the answers, but even a decade is a flash in the pan. This topic is about as polarized as religion, but I happen to think it is very possible for what we have been doing to the planet to have some adverse affects on temperature. We have messed with the earths atmosphere big time and it seems silly to hear some people be so sure that becuase it snowed in April or that temperatures have declined for 5 or 10 years that there is no way what we are doing is affecting anything. :rolleyes: For every story about declining temperatures someone has, someone else has a photo of grass covered field that was just recently covered with a glacier.

I also don't subscribe to the "don't worry about it" and "no major action needed" groups. Global warming aside, we need to change the way we live anyway. How can limiting what we use and how much we pollute be a bad thing? Less waste, less pollution, more recycling, cleaner cars (especially large fleets like city busses) less electricity...all of these are good things and much better for our health and envirionment anyway. Why not participate and make the air we breathe and the water we drink cleaner for all of us? Makes no sense to me.:dunno:

:iagree:Excellent points.

Even if global warming is cause 100% naturally, it will have an effect on our civilization and something will need to be done to mitigate the effects. Arguing about why it is happing is pointless as long as it is happening.

He's on a corporate jet flying across country right now, and then will be picked up by a few Secret Service agents in about 4 Chevy Suburbans and driven home to his 4000 sq foot energy wasting home, I'll have him return your call once he's out of the hot tub.

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Then I guess we all need to sell our X5's that get 20mpg or less, and drive a Prius that gets an est. 50-60mpg...:confused:

One thing that P&%^$sses me off is that these guys who are "warning" us about global warming are still living in huge houses that usurps large quantities of energy, and still ride their private jets instead of taking commercial flights. If you truly believe that this phenomenon is a real threat, wouldnt you change your lifestyle first before we tell others to do so? But wait: these guys are RICH and can "offset" their pollution by buying "carbon credits"! That's the solution to global warming! BUY CARBON CREDITS to offset your 15mpg SUV!!!:thumbup:

Yeah, the X is my wifes ride. It was her choice. I tried to talk her into a car. Don't get me wrong, I do love the X now that we have it, but I was very anti-SUV before she bought it. I never even considered owning an SUV as my personal car. I also didn't throw too much of a fit because the X5 was so safe. Knowing she was going to be driving it daily made me feel good. That outweighed the environmental factor.

Besides her X5, we are pretty good about using CFL's, recycling everything possible, HVAC, not buying plastic water bottles, etc.

I agree though that Gore and others were/are huge wasters of resources as they preach conservation.

:rofl: you know how toxic a CFL is? you know the level of Mercury in that bad boy? That is my point exactly, people rushing out to do things (BUY things) they are told are "good" as opposed to all those "bad" ones.

Funny how US home building standards don't go up to make sure every new home is energy efficient, but you can get credits out the butt to modify yours after purchase...yeah..that doesn't seem like a scam at all.

And recycling...JOKE. Plastics are fun to recycle...
When Recycling Is Bad for the Environment | Pollution | DISCOVER Magazine

I'm all for people not being huge pigs. I'm all for airports vehicles and mass-transit vehicles being hydrogen powered. (see LAX) But making sweeping policies to create bogus "credits" and "cap & trade" is nothing more than a money making scheme that the majority of morons have assumed is somehow beneficial to something, though they can't prove what :)

tangent over :rofl:

I went for these. Not as much mercury as others. :thumbup: Wish there wasn't any used at all, but what are you gonna do?

Energy saving lightbulbs by EarthMate

I understand it takes energy, resources and chemicals to recycle, but I don't see how it can be bad overall.

I am just saying that I try to do my part. I could be much better, but there are many people doing less. I think that attitude it better than just saying there is no problem at all.

Edit; This was the third paragraph of the article you linked;

Recycling is generally far better than sending waste to landfills and relying on new raw materials to drive the consumer economy. It takes two-thirds less energy to make products from recycled plastic than from virgin plastic. By the last official measure in 2005, Americans recycle an estimated 32 percent of their total waste, which averages nearly a ton per person per year, around a third of which is plastic. Our recycling efforts save the greenhouse gas equivalent of removing 39.6 million cars from the road.

Sounds like recycling is awesome!