The new Nokia Lumia models also "seem to be" good.
Phones

That's a good find. I wonder if it will make a November release...
Lumia 920

Now we know who designed the iPHONE.
Apple better watch out.

Maker of Chinese iPhone 5 knockoff vows to put Apple in its place [video] - Yahoo! News

Barry, Are you lining-up in front of Apple store on Friday? ;)

iPhone 5 Pre-orders Beginning on Morning of Friday, September 14

That would be funny if he did... Barry, please take a photo if you do that :)

:rofl: good lord "NO" I wouldn't be caught dead in that line.
I upgraded from a iPhone 3G to the 4S and that was painful
enough. Retired Bum on a fixed income here.... ;)

I still have the 3G sitting around the house. It still works
on WiFi and plays music on the network. But no phone calls.
Any takers....:dunno:

Oh and it comes with a Mophie

Anybody have a 32gig 4 or 4s they want to get rid of? AT&T

You all know my Vietnam story... Lol.

No 32gb but wife's 16gb 4S I will get rid of soon.