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noncom23 10-16-2006 04:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CanadianX5
I added an XM-fm-mod unit and put some Focal speakers up front. The xm unit sounds really good but it sounds like its missing about 10-15 percent of the volume compared to a cd being played at full blast.

I feel Sirius loses 10-15% Also. Thats what I mean by technically. Really not something I can control.

CanadianX5 10-16-2006 06:15 PM

I was in the same boat as you.
I wasn't happy with the volume I was getting out of the factory DSP amp.
So I followed this thread.....
http://www.xoutpost.com/bavarian-soun...dsp-audio.html

The bypass is pretty easy, but you need at least 2 amps (10 channels+1 mono channel for a sub and an electronic xover to do properly)
It's a big job to do. Costs a ton if you get top quality gear and is a pain in the ass to hide everything so it looks factory. Depending on your equipment you'll probably loose your spare too.

I ended up putting a 4 channel (Orion 8004) to power some Focal 165K2P in the front doors and I used an monoblock (Orion 2500D) to power 2 Focal 33KX (13 inch)subs in a custom fibreglass enclosure where the spare tire goes.
After everything was said and done, I had a little engine noise as well as rattling all over the back of the hatch. After getting a flat tire and waiting for a friend to pick me up to go get my spare I decided it wasnt worth it.
It was 10 times louder, it was hidden from sight but the engine noise and missing spare overshadowed any benifits.
So everything came out. Back to factory.(except I left the door speakers in)
I bought a small Audison amp and a smaller Focal 27V2 (11 inch) sub.
The new amp is mounted beside the DSP amp and the sub is in a small sealed enclosure untill I get some time to build a fibreglass one in factory location.

It doesn't shake the car at full volume anymore but it sound much more balanced now.
So what I'am getting at is.............
Upgrade your FRONT speakers first
Then add a sub and amp to the factory stuff.

Hans_ACS 10-17-2006 05:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CanadianX5
I was in the same boat as you.
I wasn't happy with the volume I was getting out of the factory DSP amp.
So I followed this thread.....
http://www.xoutpost.com/bavarian-soun...dsp-audio.html

The bypass is pretty easy, but you need at least 2 amps (10 channels+1 mono channel for a sub and an electronic xover to do properly)
It's a big job to do. Costs a ton if you get top quality gear and is a pain in the ass to hide everything so it looks factory. Depending on your equipment you'll probably loose your spare too.

I ended up putting a 4 channel (Orion 8004) to power some Focal 165K2P in the front doors and I used an monoblock (Orion 2500D) to power 2 Focal 33KX (13 inch)subs in a custom fibreglass enclosure where the spare tire goes.
After everything was said and done, I had a little engine noise as well as rattling all over the back of the hatch. After getting a flat tire and waiting for a friend to pick me up to go get my spare I decided it wasnt worth it.
It was 10 times louder, it was hidden from sight but the engine noise and missing spare overshadowed any benifits.
So everything came out. Back to factory.(except I left the door speakers in)
I bought a small Audison amp and a smaller Focal 27V2 (11 inch) sub.
The new amp is mounted beside the DSP amp and the sub is in a small sealed enclosure untill I get some time to build a fibreglass one in factory location.

It doesn't shake the car at full volume anymore but it sound much more balanced now.
So what I'am getting at is.............
Upgrade your FRONT speakers first
Then add a sub and amp to the factory stuff.

How did the mounting of the 165 k2p go ? no issues ? I love these speakers, want to install them as well ...
Thanks
Hans

CanadianX5 10-17-2006 01:06 PM

The K2P's are too big to just drop into the factory basket cone thing, so I cut off the cone part,
mounted the speaker to the base, then hotglued the cone part back on over the speaker.
Im putting in a carstarter next week if I get the time, the door panel has to come off for that so I'll take a pic of the speaker install for you.

noncom23 10-17-2006 02:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CanadianX5
I was in the same boat as you.
I wasn't happy with the volume I was getting out of the factory DSP amp.
So I followed this thread.....
http://www.xoutpost.com/bavarian-soun...dsp-audio.html

The bypass is pretty easy, but you need at least 2 amps (10 channels+1 mono channel for a sub and an electronic xover to do properly)
It's a big job to do. Costs a ton if you get top quality gear and is a pain in the ass to hide everything so it looks factory. Depending on your equipment you'll probably loose your spare too.

I ended up putting a 4 channel (Orion 8004) to power some Focal 165K2P in the front doors and I used an monoblock (Orion 2500D) to power 2 Focal 33KX (13 inch)subs in a custom fibreglass enclosure where the spare tire goes.
After everything was said and done, I had a little engine noise as well as rattling all over the back of the hatch. After getting a flat tire and waiting for a friend to pick me up to go get my spare I decided it wasnt worth it.
It was 10 times louder, it was hidden from sight but the engine noise and missing spare overshadowed any benifits.
So everything came out. Back to factory.(except I left the door speakers in)
I bought a small Audison amp and a smaller Focal 27V2 (11 inch) sub.
The new amp is mounted beside the DSP amp and the sub is in a small sealed enclosure untill I get some time to build a fibreglass one in factory location.

It doesn't shake the car at full volume anymore but it sound much more balanced now.
So what I'am getting at is.............
Upgrade your FRONT speakers first
Then add a sub and amp to the factory stuff.

Sounds great. I probably won't go that far yet.Thx.

Halston Pitman 10-17-2006 04:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CanadianX5
I added an XM-fm-mod unit and put some Focal speakers up front. The xm unit sounds really good but it sounds like its missing about 10-15 percent of the volume compared to a cd being played at full blast.

FM modulating the system will result in what you are experiencing.


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