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ccfj1 09-25-2008 08:57 AM

Easy enough, you need more than just navtweak,

You need ,

Navtweak,
GTK+/Win32 Runtime Environment files
An image reader/writer, (like imgburn)
An application that can read/write and open and image, (like UltraIso)

Once they have installed all the above, you then download the OS image, open with UltraIso, drag and drop the navboot file from the correct dir in the image file to the desktop, mod navboot and save, drag and drop back into the image, save, then burn new image (with imgburn) at a slow speed and job done.

It sounds hard but once you have done it few time it's second nature.

aldo 09-25-2008 02:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ccfj1
Easy enough, you need more than just navtweak,

You need ,

Navtweak,
GTK+/Win32 Runtime Environment files
An image reader/writer, (like imgburn)
An application that can read/write and open and image, (like UltraIso)

Once they have installed all the above, you then download the OS image, open with UltraIso, drag and drop the navboot file from the correct dir in the image file to the desktop, mod navboot and save, drag and drop back into the image, save, then burn new image (with imgburn) at a slow speed and job done.

It sounds hard but once you have done it few time it's second nature.

Thank you for the reply-I'lll give it a try :thumbup:

Jaycee 10-06-2008 07:25 PM

With regard to the fantastic sky shots that were posted earlier on in this topic, there's a good one HERE on Bikers Oracle if someone can edit out the bike.

Neo1984 10-15-2008 01:11 AM

Problems with MKIV
 
Hi Guys,

i hope that somebody can help me having problems with my MK4 Navigation System in my BMW e46. I used Navtweak to change the Start-Up Screen and even the Skyline in Birdview Mode. I downloaded Image V31 and opend it with UltraIso to extract the Navboot. After editing with Navtweak and saving back into image (also with UltraIso) i burn it on a CD (Mode1).
Everything looks OK, the Startup Screen appears like i want it and also the skyline is different. But if i change the scale to 10km or more (sometimes it happens also at 500meters) it takes a small coupe of time and then the TMC Logo disappears and the Navigation System freeze. Within 5sec. it restarts. My Problem is that i cannot say if this problem also occured with the "original" software because i did not try it before... Is it a problem of the Firmware or is my MK4 broken? I only uses burned Navigation DVDs, maybe it is also the problem???
Thanks for your help

KiwiJochen 10-15-2008 01:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Neo1984
I used Navtweak to change the Start-Up Screen and even the Skyline in Birdview Mode. I downloaded Image V31 and opend it with UltraIso to extract the Navboot. After editing with Navtweak and saving back into image (also with UltraIso) i burn it on a CD (Mode1).
Everything looks OK, the Startup Screen appears like i want it and also the skyline is different. But if i change the scale to 10km or more (sometimes it happens also at 500meters) it takes a small coupe of time and then the TMC Logo disappears and the Navigation System freeze.

You image files you used for the sky and startup will be too big. Make sure the images are about the same size (in bytes) as the original images.

What has happened is that the images are taking up too much memory and upsetting some memory addresses which is causing the nav to crash

Neo1984 10-15-2008 01:39 AM

Thanks Jochen for your quick answer. My navboot is about 30kb bigger than the original files was, is it to much anyhow? How can i do this to have the same size? I mean the small BMW Logo at the Startup does not uses a lot of memory, i believe that it would be impossible to have the same file size as the original when I use coloured pictures for startup...

KamilFKH 10-16-2008 04:00 AM

Quick navi color change guide soon
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by KamilFKH
I created a bit modified color profiles that my friends reported as not so bad :D , so I will create some description soon and I will post them here.

Cheers, Kamil

Hi all.

I replaced my recent 4:3-TAPE on board monitor with 16:9-CD-drive a week ago :D :rofl: :D and then made some more COLOR CHANGE testing for rom_col to rom_col3. I found new info and will add this to the "Quick color change guide" I am still preparing. There will be a guide how to remove 4:3 and 16:9 displays from center console too as it took me about 2 very loooong hours to get the it out without damaging dashboard trim despite using guidance by BMW TIS (TIS hint to use special tool number 123456-789 is useless if You do not have it:dunno: ).

Kamil

KiwiJochen 10-16-2008 11:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Neo1984
Thanks Jochen for your quick answer. My navboot is about 30kb bigger than the original files was, is it to much anyhow? How can i do this to have the same size? I mean the small BMW Logo at the Startup does not uses a lot of memory, i believe that it would be impossible to have the same file size as the original when I use coloured pictures for startup...

Change colour depth and compression etc to achieve the desired file size.

Any crashing of the nav after the splash image has been changed is always due to the size of the spalsh image....

the_big_1 10-26-2008 02:32 PM

Can not download navtweak from rapid share, anyone else able to get it?

dreamer 11-22-2008 03:35 AM

phu ... many many replys in this thread. Where I can find the instructions to change the boot screen? All what I know is, I have to replace the picture in the navboot file and then the navboot file in the firmware-CD. the second part is more easily. I use ultraiso and I hope it works. But how I change the picture and what properties must the picture have?

thanks in advance

ac427 11-22-2008 07:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dreamer
phu ... many many replys in this thread. Where I can find the instructions to change the boot screen? All what I know is, I have to replace the picture in the navboot file and then the navboot file in the firmware-CD. the second part is more easily. I use ultraiso and I hope it works. But how I change the picture and what properties must the picture have?

thanks in advance

Read this link http://www.xoutpost.com/517778-post2.html from CCFJ1

dreamer 11-22-2008 07:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ac427

Thank you. This is very helpful. Is there any restrictions for the picture? Or do you know a collection of good pictures?

ac427 11-22-2008 08:54 AM

Only to keep it the same size as the original splash or you will crash the satnav resulting in continuous reboots

skyteddy 11-26-2008 03:56 PM

In the first posting of this thread, from nomad, I can download the V2.6. Here in my software-collection I have a V2.7. this download is ~ 2 years old. Which is the latest version of navtweak and where I can download it?

thanks in advance!

andyC 12-14-2008 08:54 AM

TUTORIAL
 
Hi Hope you can help me i have download the above but i don't know how to use it is there any kind of tutorial or anything i can download

Bazza 12-19-2008 07:56 AM

Is anybody using NavTweak under Vista 64 bit? I've downloaded and installed gtk-2.8.20-win32-1.exe but I still get the error message
Quote:

This application has failed to start because libgtk-win32-2.0-0.dll was not found. Re-installing the application may fix this problem
.
I'm not sure what to try next.

andyC 12-20-2008 07:15 AM

is there a tutorial anywhere to tell you how to use this

hell 01-18-2009 01:36 PM

please can anybody explain what the flags in navtweak's advnaced tab stand for ? thank you in advance

ZAV 02-20-2009 11:14 AM

Hi all!
I trying change a voice for Mk2.
I modified a file langMK2\0390\gb_f.csf use navspeak. I changed original voice phrases by russain. Now my modified file is 1.2 Mb.
I create new iso and write mode2 cd.
When i load new voice into mk2 update started, but have error.

What is it Flags on Advanced tab in Navspeak?
Should i change CRC for my new voice file?

PS i know what mk2 is old navy, but it's very important for me.
sorry for my english

sarunas4 02-21-2009 04:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bazza
Is anybody using NavTweak under Vista 64 bit? I've downloaded and installed gtk-2.8.20-win32-1.exe but I still get the error message
.
I'm not sure what to try next.

i get the same error, running just regular XP.. tried it on Vista too.. nothing .. any ideas how to install this Navtweak?

Symbian 02-21-2009 04:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sarunas4
i get the same error, running just regular XP.. tried it on Vista too.. nothing .. any ideas how to install this Navtweak?

Navtweak don't need to be installed...try to copy navtweak.exe in the same folder of gtk environment...if works u can easily create a link from it...

Satheesh.net 02-22-2009 06:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sarunas4
i get the same error, running just regular XP.. tried it on Vista too.. nothing .. any ideas how to install this Navtweak?

Hi guy's! Have you tried to copy the navtweak.exe to the C:\GTK\bin directory and run the application from there? I think that will do the trick... ;)
Let me know if it works! :popcorn:

hell 02-22-2009 07:37 AM

can anyone tell me more about the flags on the advanced tab ? pleaseeee

sandroditommaso 02-22-2009 08:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bazza
Is anybody using NavTweak under Vista 64 bit? I've downloaded and installed gtk-2.8.20-win32-1.exe but I still get the error message
.
I'm not sure what to try next.

I use it on Vista 64bit without problems. I don't remember any particular configuration.

sarunas4 02-22-2009 01:55 PM

I was having problems installing Gtk+ and Navtweak on Vista 64... this is what I did: first download Gtk+ and install that. Only then download Navtweak, then it worked with no errors.

Also, I couldnt even install Gtk+ at first on Vista, it kept throwing out incompatibility errors.. so I downloaded the RAR file on my older XP, then copied over the extracted .EXE file via USB stick over to Vista and then it installed.

Scuba 02-22-2009 05:07 PM

If you have problems with running NavTweak even after the installation of GTK try to reinstall GTK one more time - I hade several times the same problem (on XP and Vista as well), in all cases I succeed to run NavTweak after additional installation of GTK

And try to use the latest version of GTK - I use gtk2-runtime-2.14.7-2009-01-13-ash.exe

Scuba 02-22-2009 05:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sarunas4
...I'm about to update my NAV right now.. with custom v32 and 2009.1 software... we'll see how it goes

UPDATE: the 2009.1 software does not work. Downloaded the BMWNAV2009.1_NA_CAMS.iso burned it with ImgBurn on 1x, verified, put it into my car.. and it said that its the wrong CD/DVD.
can anyone point me in the right direction on how to do it!?? thanks

First of all - 2009.1 is not a software it's a version of map.

Regarding your question - are you sure that you've download High version for MK4 and not Professional for CCC?;)

zaq1 02-25-2009 03:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZAV
Hi all!
I trying change a voice for Mk2.
I modified a file langMK2\0390\gb_f.csf use navspeak. I changed original voice phrases by russain. Now my modified file is 1.2 Mb.
I create new iso and write mode2 cd.
When i load new voice into mk2 update started, but have error.

What is it Flags on Advanced tab in Navspeak?
Should i change CRC for my new voice file?

PS i know what mk2 is old navy, but it's very important for me.
sorry for my english

x2

Seabass 02-27-2009 10:42 PM

Well, I'm stumped. I've been struggling to upload modded software but I keep striking out. I've read through this entire thread and I think I've tried everything.

I'm running a Mark IV Nav with V32 software. I've modded the V32 Navboot splash screen, car icons, and warning screen text using Navtweak. I've also changed the 4th bit in sw_rel.tbl using pspad to force the upload of the modded software. I've replaced these files in the iso using UltraIso. I've burned the new Iso image to a CD-rom with no problems.

When I insert the disc into the computer, things progress normally, I get the message that software will be updated, the progress bar fills all the way up ....then I get a screen that says something about "errors encountered, please see user manual, eject disk and click ok". The nav goes to a black screen, until put the regular V32 disk in. The regular V32 disk installs normally and then system works fine.

Any thoughts on what I could be doing wrong when I create the modified V32 iso?

I'm comfortable with the navtweak changes but not terribly comfortable using the hex editor. Does anyone have a working link to a copy of V27, so I can load an old version and then install a modded V32 without having to adjust the software version using the hex editor (none of the links in the forum seem to work anymore).

sarunas4 02-27-2009 11:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scuba
First of all - 2009.1 is not a software it's a version of map.

Regarding your question - are you sure that you've download High version for MK4 and not Professional for CCC?;)

you were correct. thanks

KiwiJochen 03-01-2009 01:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Seabass
Any thoughts on what I could be doing wrong when I create the modified V32 iso?

Corrupt burn / bad disc / high error rate...??
Did you measure the errors at all?

E5M1R 03-02-2009 07:37 PM

Can anyone help...
V 2,7 chrashes when trying to save
On Xp and Vista

Seabass 03-02-2009 10:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KiwiJochen
Corrupt burn / bad disc / high error rate...??
Did you measure the errors at all?

I didn't measure the errors but I've tried both of my burners using different types of discs. I also just burned a copy of V27 and it loaded with no problems.

Seabass 03-02-2009 11:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Seabass
I didn't measure the errors but I've tried both of my burners using different types of discs. I also just burned a copy of V27 and it loaded with no problems.

SUCCESS! After many attempts, I tried a different splash screen. The one I was using was a properly sized GIF of 13kb. I went to a LARGER file (44kb) and it works. Something must have been wrong with the original GIF file. Maybe it was saved as an interlaced GIF or something.

francoE38 03-03-2009 02:07 PM

Can some one help me I get the following error lilgdk_pixbuf-2.0.dll was not found for navspeak.exe
and the followinf error libgdk-win32-2.0-dll eas not found for navtweak.exe

thanks Franco

francoE38 03-03-2009 04:41 PM

Can some one help me I get the following error lilgdk_pixbuf-2.0.dll was not found for navspeak.exe
and the following error libgdk-win32-2.0-dll eas not found for navtweak.exe

gavintier 03-03-2009 05:29 PM

does anyone have a link to download the software for a Mk 3 sat nav system? I need the DIS coding program
(CD 22.0 onward) Can anyone please help??

Roy in GA 03-04-2009 01:25 AM

DIS coding has nothing to do with MKIII OS software. Lot of info on this forum on downloading and burning and loading the OS.

Scuba 03-04-2009 03:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by francoE38
Can some one help me I get the following error lilgdk_pixbuf-2.0.dll was not found for navspeak.exe
and the following error libgdk-win32-2.0-dll eas not found for navtweak.exe

Install GTK libraries...... it's there

Scuba 03-04-2009 03:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Roy in GA
DIS coding has nothing to do with MKIII OS software. Lot of info on this forum on downloading and burning and loading the OS.

Not exactly..... in principle - yes, it is two different things but when you change something by DIS in navigation unit it requires to put naviSW CD into navi device....

meeras 03-04-2009 05:19 AM

Hi

Mods will not work for e65/e66 ????

I was trying to modify the NAV with customized sky and destination flag as well as a custom splash image. Used navtwek and modified navboot, created, burned it and upgraded the NAV computer successfully. But my mods didn't come. I downgraded to V25 and again upgraded to V32 with my modified images. No luck.
But, the upgrade process was smooth and there was no errot.
It still have the default sky, boot splash image and destination flag etc.

Now my assumption is these modifications work only for MK series Navigation computers and mine is a NAVI03 in e66 and that will not accept these modifications.
If anybody had successfully modified and changed the boot splash and sky on E65/E66 navigation computers ( NAVI01/NAVI02/NAVI03) please shout at me and tell me the secret to get it done.

regards

francoE38 03-04-2009 12:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scuba
Install GTK libraries...... it's there

once i installed them where do I save them at?

Scuba 03-05-2009 01:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by francoE38
once i installed them where do I save them at?

I had the similar problem - even after the installation of GTK I still received messages that some libraries are missing...... Installation of GTK once again soved this problem, maybe it was some bug.... :dunno:

Try to install GTK one more time

TorqueDog 04-10-2009 05:37 PM

Is it possible to change the boot screen on an MK2? I'm playing around with it right now, trying to figure out what file I need to be in to make changes to the MK2 software.

KiwiJochen 04-12-2009 09:03 AM

You could try the same approach as used on Mk3 and Mk4. Edit the GIF.

Make sure you have plenty of Mk2s lying around, it is easy to damage the unit during reflash and thus make the unit unusable...

TorqueDog 04-12-2009 02:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KiwiJochen
You could try the same approach as used on Mk3 and Mk4. Edit the GIF.

Make sure you have plenty of Mk2s lying around, it is easy to damage the unit during reflash and thus make the unit unusable...

Haha, already done that once. :) Had to create a normal firmware disc, remove the nav computer, and manually swap the discs to get it working again.

arnis 04-14-2009 05:06 PM

Plese tell me wich navboot I have to edit to change GB language for my mk2
I want to translate gb to latvian.

i have v31_mode2-form1 upgrade
Thanx

KiwiJochen 04-15-2009 01:04 AM

NavTweak doesn't work on Mk2 boot files, therefore your task will be difficult, as I don't know of any software that can edit the Mk2 usw_load file...

The usw_load file is easy to find:

:\Mk2C\<HW-ver>\BMW\app_sw and the file is usw_load

Scuba 04-15-2009 01:04 AM

It is impossible to edit any files for MK2 by Navtweak. You can not do this for MK2

Manfred 04-15-2009 07:50 AM

GREAT WORK!
 
nomad: Great work!!! U ARE GOD!
THX U VERY MUCH!!!!!!!!!

Manfred 04-15-2009 11:54 AM

Help
 
Pls, how can I change Voice? I modify gb_f in NavSpeak and CD donīt boot in car. (I have V32)

Pls reply. :(

(sorry for my bad english)



Edit: All is OK

rastaFarai 04-15-2009 10:57 PM

anyone have NYC skyline?

kiter 04-16-2009 04:58 AM

rasta Farai,

do you searching for this one :thumbup:

http://image.houbi.ch/skylines/56_skyline2.jpg

Some more you can find here: SplashScreen's, Boot Logo's & Skylines

albloushi 04-24-2009 08:23 AM

The link is not working

could you please tell me where can i download it?

Manfred 04-24-2009 09:08 AM

NAVTWEAK 2.7
 

rastaFarai 04-24-2009 11:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Manfred (Post 611488)

what are the enhancements?

rastaFarai 04-24-2009 11:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kiter (Post 607686)
rasta Farai,

do you searching for this one :thumbup:

http://image.houbi.ch/skylines/56_skyline2.jpg

Some more you can find here: SplashScreen's, Boot Logo's & Skylines

exactly what i was looking for thank you..

johnnybravo 05-26-2009 05:18 PM

can this program alter the nav from mono to colour

RichardP1 05-26-2009 05:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by johnnybravo (Post 624474)
can this program alter the nav from mono to colour

For a MK IV, yes.

johnnybravo 05-26-2009 05:26 PM

how do i do this

RichardP1 05-26-2009 05:35 PM

Run NavCoder.

Select 'Code' from the menu.

Select 'Navigation' from the menu.

Select 'Read Output Mode', bottom left.

Change 'Mono' to 'Color'.

Select 'Code Output Mode'.

Insert Nav Software CD when the Nav computer reboots.

KiwiJochen 05-27-2009 01:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by johnnybravo (Post 624474)
can this program alter the nav from mono to colour

No, NavTweak does not do that

NavCoder recodes navs from Mono to Colour

NavCoder Website

johnnybravo 05-27-2009 11:52 AM

Hi Jochen thanks for the reply i have had a look on the unit and it has a number with the letter C in the middle next to the world display does this mean i have the colour unit and if so does that mean there is another problem with my car as there is no display but its changing the language on the dash dispaly bar

KiwiJochen 05-27-2009 12:19 PM

Some navs have the coding printed on the label

BMWM01S = Mono coding
BMWC01S = Colour coding

If you cannot see BMWM01S or BMWC01S on the label then the only way to confirm the coding is to read it with NavCoder.

Another possibility: Does your car have TV? Is the loom equipped for TV? Is the TV tuner fitted?
If you have an original loom equipped for TV, but no TV tuner fitted, then you will not see a picture until you transfer the blue plug from the TV to the nav.

Roy in GA 05-28-2009 09:23 PM

The other way is if the unit has a second label with a VIN on it. The VIN can be looked up for the option list and Option 609 is the color nav and the other is radio/mono nav and I think that is option 606.

SuPrAiCeR69 05-31-2009 09:15 AM

Awesome thread, thank you. It's working wonderfully on my Z4 M.
Now how do I get this to work on my 645ci? It's the '05 i-drive model and i just want to replace the splash screen...

Thanks, any help is much appreciated.

KiwiJochen 05-31-2009 03:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SuPrAiCeR69 (Post 625990)
Now how do I get this to work on my 645ci? It's the '05 i-drive model and i just want to replace the splash screen...

You cannot as the 645ci software is loaded via the BMW diagnostic system only

SuPrAiCeR69 06-01-2009 03:02 AM

Thanks for the reply KiwiJochen.

I am good friends with the managers at BMW in Sydney, if I was to ask them to load the software via the diagnostic (I think this is progman) would they possibly be able to change the settings for boot splash screen? And how would I go about adding POI's for speed camera locations as the 645ci isn't on ibus...it's a shame it is completely different to my z4 :(

Thanks again for your help.

ccfj1 06-01-2009 03:27 AM

You can have the POI speed cameras for I-drive cars, just not the alerts, the POI cameras are a function of the map disc not the OS.

KiwiJochen 06-01-2009 04:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SuPrAiCeR69 (Post 626253)
Thanks for the reply KiwiJochen.

I am good friends with the managers at BMW in Sydney, if I was to ask them to load the software via the diagnostic (I think this is progman) would they possibly be able to change the settings for boot splash screen?

They would not have a clue what to do.

Their job is to load official BMW software to BMW cars using the official BMW tools

A BMW workshop manager is not a computer hacker and is not a software programming expert.
He is a manager that focusses on running a car repair workshop efficiently and profitably and complying with the factory directives.

Quote:

Originally Posted by SuPrAiCeR69 (Post 626253)
And how would I go about adding POI's for speed camera locations as the 645ci isn't on ibus...

To load POIs just add them to the map disc.
You don't need an ibus car to add POIs, just use your home computer and add POIs to the map in the same format as they already are on the map disc.

Quote:

Originally Posted by SuPrAiCeR69 (Post 626253)
it's a shame it is completely different to my z4 :(

That's called progress :-)

(Not every Windows 3.1 app can run on Windows 7 either...)

ccfj1 06-01-2009 04:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KiwiJochen (Post 626258)
They would not have a clue what to do.

Their job is to load official BMW software to BMW cars using the official BMW tools

A BMW workshop manager is not a computer hacker and is not a software programming expert.

I agree, the last time I was in and wanted stuff done, I ended up using the coding tablet myself as the Tech assigned to the job was clueless, first they said it could not be done, then that the car would not accept the coding, I asked them if I could have a go and sorted it out in less than 5 minutes, and that was just for retrofitting the rear LED lights, not coding the nav unit.

PowerOfDreams 07-01-2009 07:48 AM

Hello navi editors,

after successfully testing navtweak I'm really really hooked about all the features. :wow:

The features and also the results are so fantastic that I try to ask for some other innovations, now. - In hope nobody kill me for that - :D

Until now, I added the POI-Warner and changed the settings for navi-colours. And it works wonderful. :thumbup:

But, there are some ideas in my brain, which I have to ask for :rofl:
1. Is it somehow possible to increase the scale-range of the navi? Sometimes I need a lower scale than 100m, but there is no one. :( 25/50m scale would be a dream.
2. Is it possible to change the ratio between navi and arrow-screen in split-screen mode. In my eyes, the arrow-screen could be much smaller and therefore the navi-screen much bigger. But is it changeable???

Thx a lot,

Frank - PoD -

TJJ 07-22-2009 07:43 AM

Does anyone know where check control language selection is defined?

For example: I want to modify Italian language to something else, I can easily change the texts but instrument cluster's check control text still switches to Italian and I want it in English. Where is this defined? Looks like it's not in the language module, it was still the same after I exported/imported English language module over the Italian language module.

ccfj1 07-22-2009 07:54 AM

Change the language with navcoder, and make the primary language English, that way the cluster, nav, phone, VR and TV will all be correct. (jump in Jochen if I'm talking rubbish).

TJJ 07-22-2009 08:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ccfj1 (Post 643119)
Change the language with navcoder, and make the primary language English, that way the cluster, nav, phone, VR and TV will all be correct. (jump in Jochen if I'm talking rubbish).

What primary language? I have English in 1st position but it makes no difference, as soon as I select another language check control also changes.

Btw. how do I code just two languages and leave last position empty? Navcoder seems to always code all three.

KiwiJochen 07-22-2009 08:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TJJ (Post 643118)
Does anyone know where check control language selection is defined?

In the Light Control Module, in the Phone, in the Nav, in the Tire Defect Monitor, and in the Instrument CLuster

Quote:

Originally Posted by TJJ (Post 643118)
For example: I want to modify Italian language to something else, I can easily change the texts but instrument cluster's check control text still switches to Italian and I want it in English. Where is this defined? Looks like it's not in the language module, it was still the same after I exported/imported English language module over the Italian language module.

With your method you can only modify nav text, you cannot change the language.

Ie if you change "Lingua" to "Language", you only changed the displayed text, the car is still configured for Italian

To change the car's config from IT to EN, use NavCoder and load the EN language into the nav. Then select EN in the nav, and the car will correctly set everything to EN.

KiwiJochen 07-22-2009 08:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TJJ (Post 643122)
What primary language? I have English in 1st position but it makes no difference, as soon as I select another language check control also changes.

You must use NavCoder and load EN + 2 other languages iof your choice.

Quote:

Originally Posted by TJJ (Post 643122)
Btw. how do I code just two languages and leave last position empty? Navcoder seems to always code all three.

You cannot leave an empty position
you must load 2 languages on a Mk2 or Mk3, and 3 languages on a Mk4

So if you have now IT, FR & DE but you want EN, FR and DE, then simply select EN, FR and DE in NavCoder.

The nav will load the necessary language files from the OS disc.

TJJ 07-22-2009 10:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KiwiJochen (Post 643124)
To change the car's config from IT to EN, use NavCoder and load the EN language into the nav. Then select EN in the nav, and the car will correctly set everything to EN.

Yes, but I want to use 3 different languages and have them all set the car to EN and still display navi texts in those 3 languages (or whatever I have typed in them).

Navigation unit sends this car config command, so I just wanted to know where in the navigation software this command is defined?

TJJ 07-22-2009 10:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KiwiJochen (Post 643126)
You cannot leave an empty position
you must load 2 languages on a Mk2 or Mk3, and 3 languages on a Mk4

Are you sure? When I first got the MK4-navigation unit, I seem to recall that it had just two languages, DE and FR. What happens if you put for example FF to the last language bits of the hex line that changes the languages? Crash and burn...?

KiwiJochen 07-22-2009 11:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TJJ (Post 643152)
Yes, but I want to use 3 different languages and have them all set the car to EN and still display navi texts in those 3 languages (or whatever I have typed in them).

You must load 3 x DIFFERENT languages

The nav will not change languages properly if you set 2 or 3 languages the same

Try it and see what happens :-)

Quote:

Originally Posted by TJJ (Post 643152)
Navigation unit sends this car config command, so I just wanted to know where in the navigation software this command is defined?

The command is defined in the nav OS software somewhere, I don't know where.
You would have to decompile and reverse engineer the operating system to find where.
OS is a special version of OS9000

KiwiJochen 07-22-2009 11:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TJJ (Post 643155)
Are you sure? When I first got the MK4-navigation unit, I seem to recall that it had just two languages, DE and FR. What happens if you put for example FF to the last language bits of the hex line that changes the languages? Crash and burn...?

It reverts to default. If you load 3 x FF FF FF, it loads DE FR EN, because default is DE FR EN

I think if you set a language that doesn't exist, ie: 1F, then it may default to 00 (German)

But try it and report back to me :-)

ccfj1 07-22-2009 11:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KiwiJochen (Post 643165)
You must load 3 x DIFFERENT languages

The nav will not change languages properly if you set 2 or 3 languages the same

Try it and see what happens :-)

I did this with my mk4 and tried to load the UK Fem and the UK male and it did not like it at all..

Load Eng and ITA then any other, then blank it out using navtweak.

Quote:


The command is defined in the nav OS software somewhere, I don't know where.
You would have to decompile and reverse engineer the operating system to find where.
OS is a special version of OS9000
Jochen is right, good luck with that, I've been tiring to get a copy of normal OS9000 and it virtually impossible, never mind the decompile/recompile.

TJJ 07-22-2009 11:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KiwiJochen (Post 643165)
You must load 3 x DIFFERENT languages

The nav will not change languages properly if you set 2 or 3 languages the same

Try it and see what happens :-)

I have already tried that... Did not work. So looks like it's not possible to have 3 different languages that all change car to EN? I now have GB and US but all others that have translatable text strings switch car to DE, FR, IT or ES. Or have I missed something?

KiwiJochen 07-23-2009 11:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TJJ (Post 643176)
I have already tried that... Did not work. So looks like it's not possible to have 3 different languages that all change car to EN? I now have GB and US but all others that have translatable text strings switch car to DE, FR, IT or ES. Or have I missed something?

You are right

Remember: the language is defined by the language number
00=German
01=English
02=US English etc
(not sure if 01 and 02 are correct, but you understand what I mean)

The car is not designed to have 2 x the same languages in the nav.

PSQ 07-31-2009 06:04 AM

Hi,
I have a problem with NavTweak and a modules file from Carminat 8000 software. All files are read by NavTweak except file where are language modules (program is hanging).
What I have to do, to edit this file?
Thanks for your answers.

Hdhntr23 08-21-2009 12:33 PM

Can you guys help me with creating a new disc?

Here is what I have done so far and I seemed to have gotten lost somewhere.

I have copied the files from a known working disc for update v31 with night vision over to its own directory on my hdd.

I can open NavTweak up, Ive drilled to the navboot file. I can edit the changes I want etc etc.

I just cant for the life of me figure out what to do next.

Do I save that edited navboot file back into the directory it came out of? Do I name it as navboot?

Do I then copy all those files in that directory I created on my HDD over to a disc and burn it as an ISO?

Ive read the thread and I see instructions for burning but I cant seem to get my edited files back to an iso thats where Im getting lost.

Do I copy all of the files to a new CD or, is there a certain file that I burn? Reason I ask is because everytime I try to burn just the navboot file it says unexpected file format cannot proceed. Or something of the like.

Any help in laymens terms would really help.

Thanks!

ccfj1 08-23-2009 07:19 AM

Don't do it this way unless you have a mk3.

if you have a mk4, then open the image of the v31/v32 (using ultraiso or magiciso etc) and then drag and drop the navboot to the same dir that you have navtweak, then do the edits and save (as navboot), then drag and drop the new navboot back into the open v32 image (using ultraiso or magiciso etc) and then save as a new image (eg v31_mine.iso), the use imgburn to burn the new image to disc, remember to use the slowest rated speed of the disc or x1 speed.

corima 09-20-2009 11:04 AM

Well, I must be the biggest Noob around. Downloaded all components( I think) of navspeak and navtweak. Still cant get it to run on my laptop. Its a 64bit, does that make any difference? Thanks

Scuba 09-21-2009 01:20 AM

Did you install GTK libraries?

corima 09-21-2009 12:06 PM

do I need to load all 4 of the gtk files, and the 2 glade files?

Scuba 09-22-2009 01:25 AM

Definatelly.... you should install the last version of GTK+

nikosf 10-02-2009 11:42 AM

Color menu
 
1. How can I change "Day/Night 1 2" from menu (as picture) to " "Day/Night Day Night " ?

2. How can I change green color to brown or red ?

3. Can I have different sky.jpg in day made (oem sky image) and other in night mode ?
Thanks in advance

(Sorry but I think that i can't upload pictures but there are ian attachments)

ccfj1 10-02-2009 12:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nikosf (Post 665783)
1. How can I change "Day/Night 1 2" from menu (as picture) to " "Day/Night Day Night " ?

Not possible, the 1 and 2 are generic and are used in other places, (like the radio, so "radio 1" would become "radio day").

Quote:

2. How can I change green color to brown or red ?
Open the rom_col scheme and change the green values to red or brown, using the sliders.

Quote:

3. Can I have different sky.jpg in day made (oem sky image) and other in night mode ?
Yes, you can have any sky you want, it under the romicons and scroll down to #8 that's the sky.

Quote:

Thanks in advance

(Sorry but I think that i can't upload pictures but there are ian attachments)
Open a photobucket account and then use the [img] tags to insert into the page.

nikosf 10-03-2009 07:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ccfj1 (Post 665792)
Not possible, the 1 and 2 are generic and are used in other places, (like the radio, so "radio 1" would become "radio day").

Open the rom_col scheme and change the green values to red or brown, using the sliders.

Yes, you can have any sky you want, it under the romicons and scroll down to #8 that's the sky.

Open a photobucket account and then use the [img] tags to insert into the page.

' Open the rom_col scheme and change the green values to red or brown, using the sliders."
In which row (tab,line)I must change the green color with red?
"Yes, you can have any sky you want, it under the romicons and scroll down to #8 that's the sky." Do you mean in romcol_1 can i have image sky1.jpg and in the romcol_2 or romcol_3 image sky2.jpg.by changing #8 to eachother ?
Thanks

ccfj1 10-03-2009 01:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nikosf (Post 666014)
' Open the rom_col scheme and change the green values to red or brown, using the sliders."
In which row (tab,line)I must change the green color with red?

You will need to experiment yourself my friend, there are loads of combination's, you will need to try some and see if you like the result, there is no definitive answer.

This is why it took me 2 1/2 weeks and over 30 OS updates to get the blue scheme, it's trial and error.

Quote:

"Yes, you can have any sky you want, it under the romicons and scroll down to #8 that's the sky." Do you mean in romcol_1 can i have image sky1.jpg and in the romcol_2 or romcol_3 image sky2.jpg.by changing #8 to eachother ?
Thanks
No, you can only have 1 sky, in all colour sets.

nikosf 10-04-2009 09:57 AM

2 Attachment(s)
Quote:

Originally Posted by ccfj1 (Post 666082)
You will need to experiment yourself my friend, there are loads of combination's, you will need to try some and see if you like the result, there is no definitive answer.

This is why it took me 2 1/2 weeks and over 30 OS updates to get the blue scheme, it's trial and error.



No, you can only have 1 sky, in all colour sets.

I mean that I want to change this green color to brown or red
Thanks

NYCSterling 10-15-2009 12:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KiwiJochen (Post 378269)
OK


You'll find the text in the text strings - look through them.
Then overwrite the text, and make a new OS disk

Remember to increment the OS version number to force the load...

Would you please tell me how to increment the OS number?

KiwiJochen 10-16-2009 04:04 PM

Increment means to increase.

so if you have 3-1/63 as the current OS, an increment will take it to 3-1/64

just alter the "3" to a "4"

It`s in the swver.tbl (or similar named) file

nsxxtreme 11-21-2009 01:23 AM

Hoping someone can help here. I have read all 50 pages of posts.

I'm in the US and the voice I have on my NAV is female american

This is an MK4 system
I really miss the British dude. The only options I have is English, Spanish, French.

I have downloaded Navtweak and under modules I see Lng_American and Lng_English. I dont know which one of these its using my guess is the American one.

How do I enable the male british guy on my NAV? I know how to replace files and how to burn the file I just need to know how to make the voice change.

Thanks in advance for any information provided.

KiwiJochen 11-21-2009 04:35 AM

Why don't you just configure the car to GB, UK and the third language of your choice?

Then no nav hacks are required and everything is done properly.

Changing the cars 3 languages can be done by any BMW dealer or you can do it yourself using NavCoder and the simple interface
NavCoder Website

nsxxtreme 11-21-2009 10:56 PM

For one I have a Range Rover not a BMW. I've removed the MK3 and put in the MK4.

I do not have the reqired Navcoder hardware. I do have a MSV Faultmate that can access every computer in the RR including the NAV. But I did not see anyway to change the language.

KiwiJochen 11-22-2009 04:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nsxxtreme (Post 682985)
For one I have a Range Rover not a BMW. I've removed the MK3 and put in the MK4.

I do not have the reqired Navcoder hardware. I do have a MSV Faultmate that can access every computer in the RR including the NAV. But I did not see anyway to change the language.

As you state, MSV cannot change the config of the nav

But NavCoder can...

Rifo 02-09-2010 03:41 PM

Hy guys.

Just found really cool stuff, Snoop Dogg's voice on TomTom navigation. I am wondering how about to put these voice's in BMW navigation using NavSpeak?
TomTom, portable GPS car navigation systems

I think it is possible, if just someone could get out of TomTom Snoop Dogg's voice?

Rifo 02-09-2010 04:23 PM

Snoop doggs voice for TomTom can get here
Download data116_Snoop_Dogg.rar from Sendspace.com - send big files the easy way

But there are 3 files
one with Snoop's pic
second .chk file
third .vif file
is it somehow possible to get .wav files from these?

aise 02-10-2010 05:22 AM

lol, it would be nice when dogg raps you the directions:bustingup

neiloakley 02-10-2010 12:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nsxxtreme (Post 682985)
For one I have a Range Rover not a BMW. I've removed the MK3 and put in the MK4.

I do not have the reqired Navcoder hardware. I do have a MSV Faultmate that can access every computer in the RR including the NAV. But I did not see anyway to change the language.

You need to buy the IBUS interface. Your computer is going in through CAN or EOBD, you need to go in via IBUS with navcoder

Rgds

bluelagoon 02-10-2010 02:28 PM

Does anyone know what is the description for the background colour to this menu? I can't seem to find it. I think it may be the same as the description used for the scale background.

http://i48.tinypic.com/168j03t.jpg

Bimmerfun 02-19-2010 06:08 PM

Hi all!
I have question: can I modify with Navtweak language of the little screen, behind the streering wheel? Where the system messages are. Shortly : the dashboard.
B.
http://www.xoutpost.com/images/misc/progress.gif http://www.xoutpost.com/images/buttons/edit.gif

Bimmerfun 02-19-2010 06:15 PM

Sorry!
I found the answers in page 48!

peterpaul 02-19-2010 08:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bimmerfun (Post 715047)
Sorry!
I found the answers in page 48!

and which post-number?

enzo 240 03-12-2010 11:39 PM

i have been trying to search this thread and cant really find it... 2 questions...
1) my splash screen does not always show up. Does any one know the reason for this?
2) is there a way in increase/decrease the splash screen time?

Jaycee 03-13-2010 12:29 AM

In answer to your questions enzo :

1) They all do that, and nobody knows the reason why.
2) No, I don't believe there is a way.

enzo 240 03-13-2010 12:40 AM

k thank you i was worried i messed some thing up in navtweak but glad to know... i think it has to do with the navigation system stayin on. if you notice when u turn off the car(or atleast in my zed) u can hear is still running and if u turn the car off then wait a minute and turn it back on the warning screen wont even appear.. and it'll still be on the same screen as when u turned the car off i.e. menu/gps/ what ever. just a thought...

Vincenzo

KiwiJochen 03-13-2010 01:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jaycee (Post 722274)
In answer to your questions enzo :

1) They all do that, and nobody knows the reason why.

Well, I know the reason! See next post...

KiwiJochen 03-13-2010 01:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by enzo 240 (Post 722259)
i have been trying to search this thread and cant really find it... 2 questions...
1) my splash screen does not always show up. Does any one know the reason for this?
2) is there a way in increase/decrease the splash screen time?

1. Splash screen shows on COLD BOOT only.
Warm boot occurs when nav is in standby mode
Cold boot occurs after nav has totally shut down (full power off)
Standby occurs when ign off but databus still active, or less than 60s after bus has gone idle.
Total shut down occurs after ign off, and databus has been idle (no traffic) for 60 seconds or more.

To test: open boot and observe nav. Turn ign off, go to boot and watch nav. Wait. The red LED will be blinking and still on (nav in standby), waiting for 60s timeout. After 60s of car sitting there doing nothing, the nav LED will do some rapid blinking (writing to flash memory) and then go out. As soon as the LED is off, the nav has done a total shut down.

For a start up after total shut down, the nav must boot from cold (COLD BOOT), and this is the time period that the splash screen is shown

The nav is designed like this so that the nav only needs to warm reboot after brief ign off periods - like refueling, or just stopping and starting the engine

2) No, to changing the boot time period is not possible. Why would you want to anyway?

enzo 240 03-13-2010 03:26 AM

ya i had a feeling it had to do with it staying on...

2) to make sure i didnt mess with any thing that could of ;)

Jaycee 03-13-2010 07:38 PM

I'm now enlightened. :thumbup:

pindour 03-28-2010 03:35 PM

Hi,
can be adjusted through NAVTWEAK software for E65? Which file to open?
How to adjust the MK2? NAVTWEAK can not open it.

Thanks

romanice 04-18-2010 04:39 AM

My mod with the help of navtweak and all the posts
 
Hello everyone,
I have been using x outpost to help me modify about everything on my 04 X3.
But I only discovered the forums about 3 days ago accidentally. I had no intention of modifying anything on my car. But I stumbled upon the navigation posts. After reading all the posts on navtweek, night mode, and v32 I modified my navi. I am writing this post to say thank you to all posters for making a friendly informative community and to show how the information was used.
Also to maybe help someone in the future.

First day I installed v32 from whatever was on the 04, 4-1/24 i think. And activated perspective mode. Which is honestly the only thing I thought was missing on the navi when i changed from a $100 plug in one.
Perspective mode is activated at the bottom of the following menu which is opened by holding menu when in settings for 10 seconds, just restating for anyone who is wondering as this seemed to be a very common question.
http://temp.ca-dentalnet.officelive....s/imga0007.jpg
Afterwhich while viewing the map select perspective under point of view.
Everyone should know what it looks like so I won't post a pic of a standard perspective map.

After obtaining many poi icons, pointer icons, splash screens, and reading 200 pages of posts for ideas. I began modifying the navboot and photoshopping a splash screen. After spending about 6 hours editing 7 photo's together and rotating the 2d and 3d pointers I burned my first OS mod onto an RW which did not take. The RW was a memorex high speed so the slowest it could do was 10x and the fastest was 12x so not much of a choice there. I changed the iso to mode 2 and tried again and that also did not take. I then took the v32 iso and just switched out the navboot and .tbl files. And that took up until the "this will take 6min do not turn off your ignition" screen. which remained on for 10 min and then I tried to eject the disc and turned off the car.

I tried everything I could but the disc would not come out and whenever I turned on the car I would see that screen which I am labeling the blue screen of death for the bmw.

Scared out of my mind that I actually screwed my mk4 because i was forced to turn off my ignition. I panicked. And joined this forum for advise. But apparently I can't post instantly. After obtaining a very small torx I disassembled the nav lifted the motor and ejected the disk manually. That was a wonderful feeling.

After hooking back up the nav my system had only black screen so it apparently had no os. I cracked the rw disk 3 different ways and tossed it. It was already scratched from trying to get it out manually.

I burned on another rw disk the same mod but without replacing .tbl files as i
was not worried about an os increase. This worked perfectly within 3 min I had v32 with all my mods. I assumed then that the other disc had either a problem with my hex editing of the .tbl files or the previous deletes on the disc screwed the process.

Well here is the end result.
Splash screen combined from 4 images on the splash forum, 2 personal photos ,which i censored if you are wondering what the scribbles are, and 2 hours modifying the BMW logo.
http://temp.ca-dentalnet.officelive....ap_014post.gif

Accept Screen, The words were taken from a picture on the splash screen forum which I thought were funny although could possibly be reworded better.
http://temp.ca-dentalnet.officelive....s/imga0001.jpg

In the settings menu I only changed color set to Day / Night as i used the night mode files provided by ccfj1
http://temp.ca-dentalnet.officelive....s/imga0002.jpg

I changed the pointers in 2d mode, using the vertical pointer provided by someone. I rotated it for every angle just in case for some reason someone will want it to point north.
http://temp.ca-dentalnet.officelive....s/imga0006.jpg

For perspective i added two more angles to the angel wings
http://temp.ca-dentalnet.officelive....s/icon_112.png http://temp.ca-dentalnet.officelive....s/icon_132.png 2d pointer used http://temp.ca-dentalnet.officelive....es/ccp_000.png

http://temp.ca-dentalnet.officelive....s/imga0009.jpg

All of these are in the night mode color set from ccfj1 which i did not modify.
I like the sky as it matches the night mode and did not want to make another and i like that there is no orange around the selections. I also did not want to do guess and check on changing the colors.
http://temp.ca-dentalnet.officelive....s/imga0008.jpg

This is all the pointers used and modified. Pointers
This is a temp server file so if anyone wants to repost it elsewhere feel free.
It includes all the 2d pointers as metallic and 5 perspective pointers with removed fronts as those are the only angles i've noticed the car to use.

Hope you guys like the mod. I am open to all suggestions for my second mod and any friendly criticism on this one. Last thing left for me to upgrade is a backup camera so my wife can drive the car. If anyone has as any suggestions please let me know.

Lastly I also downloaded the 2009.1 map from a link on a post and noticed that it no longer offers general destinations as a choice in information.
http://temp.ca-dentalnet.officelive....s/imga0011.jpg
I was wondering if anyone would know why this is? If it is an os change or a map disk change or niether?

merc 04-24-2010 02:46 PM

Hey! I have 2 questions ;)
1. I downloaded v31 firmware for my mk4, there were 3 files .bin .toc and .cue. Which one of them i should use with navtweak? And should i use that gtk i installed?
2. How can i enable perspective bird view?
I know answers should be somewhere here but i tried to search for them already for 4-5 hours.

ccfj1 04-24-2010 03:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by merc (Post 735526)
Hey! I have 2 questions ;)
1. I downloaded v31 firmware for my mk4, there were 3 files .bin .toc and .cue. Which one of them i should use with navtweak? And should i use that gtk i installed?
2. How can i enable perspective bird view?
I know answers should be somewhere here but i tried to search for them already for 4-5 hours.

Open the .cue file in ultraiso and then drag the navboot file out of the v2/rr/101 dir, and open with navtweak.

Put the navtweak .exe in the bin dir (or the gtk dir).

merc 04-24-2010 04:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ccfj1 (Post 735540)
Open the .cue file in ultraiso and then drag the navboot file out of the v2/rr/101 dir, and open with navtweak.

Put the navtweak .exe in the bin dir (or the gtk dir).

Thanks mate

ivo1bg 04-26-2010 08:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by E5M1R (Post 584436)
Can anyone help...
V 2,7 chrashes when trying to save
On Xp and Vista

I have the same problem. Using gtk2-runtime-2.16.6-2009-12-01-ash.exe and the navtweak.exe is in bin directory. Please tell me any solution.

ccfj1 04-27-2010 03:10 AM

The problem can be any number of things.

What I've found is that the GTK must be correct, on xp try the latest version of the gtk libs.

XP: latest GTK.
Vista:??? don't know never used it.
Win7: I have to run 2 versions for navtweak and POison (2.16.6 for NT, and 2.14.7 for poison, no other combo works).

Also, navtweak.exe (2.7), has a bug where if you do to many changes to the rombitmaps, it will crash on exit, even with the correct gtk loaded.

I've e-mailed nomad but as yet received no reply.

ivo1bg 04-27-2010 04:09 AM

Thank You ccfj1 for the answer. The problem is that I used navtweak2.7 for a month in Win7 and WinXP without any problems, but now it crashes. It crashes even if I only open navboot file and then try to save it without any changes. I don't know what to do to work with my custom navi project. Until now I managed to change the sky, splash screen and put cyrillic alphabet in Fonts and want to try translate Lng_Detsch.txt in my language, but with this bug I don't know how to do that.

ccfj1 04-27-2010 04:17 AM

hmm, I know its not a fix, but use 2.6, its a bit more stable.

Or send me the mods and I'll make the navboot for you.

aise 04-27-2010 04:28 AM

i have the v31 image with nightvision and camera alert mods. downloaded it. i tried to change the bootup image (it has the M logo) with navtweak but after this it won't load the software, it crashes...

ccfj1 04-27-2010 04:29 AM

how big is the new splash?

aise 04-27-2010 04:31 AM

14KB, 14 370 bytes

ccfj1 04-27-2010 04:45 AM

hmm, it should handle that no problem?

ivo1bg 04-27-2010 06:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ccfj1 (Post 736312)
hmm, I know its not a fix, but use 2.6, its a bit more stable.

Or send me the mods and I'll make the navboot for you.

Yes, the 2.6 version still works on my comps :). But there is not Export/Import function. Later I send You the mods. Thank You very much for Your help.

ccfj1 04-27-2010 06:20 AM

There is mate, use the modules tab and save/replace, this does the same as Export/Import.

Edit text in 2.6 (from strings tab) then save (normal as navboot), then select the modules tab and save Lag_text, then use replace when you need to "import".

ivo1bg 04-27-2010 06:27 AM

This is great, but in 2.6 I can't insert Cyrillic letters - only Latin.
P.S. I tried and in 2.7 can't too.

ccfj1 04-27-2010 06:29 AM

Ah, Ok.

awt 05-09-2010 12:35 PM

Does anyone know if it's possible to change the shape of the things I marked with a red circle, or ar those "hardprintet" in to the system?

If it's not possible, does anyone know what they are called in rom_col_*, so I can just change the color?

http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/a...digertnske.jpg

KiwiJochen 05-09-2010 02:04 PM

No you cannot change these shapes, they are hardcoded

awt 05-09-2010 05:02 PM

Can I change the color on them? I don't like the gray ones, so I want to color them black.

ccfj1 05-10-2010 03:11 AM

Yes you can changer the colour, the box around the cursor is in the rom_col_X under

cursor
cursor lightline
cursor shadow
cursor pushed

cursor pushed shadow one north-west and east
cursor pushed south-est shadow

The Menu and box edging colour is under the

Leuchtfeuer
Leuchtfeuer Lightline
Leuchtfeuer shadow
.....You get the idea.


You will need to do the colour swap on both wide and 4:3 pairs (rom_col2-3 etc).

awt 05-10-2010 10:45 AM

Thank you very much. :)

Bimmerfun 06-22-2010 06:52 AM

Hi all!
Can I copy and paste words somehow in navtweak? I mean i changed language deutch to my own language, but i want to copy and paste it to language english in string column. Can i do it, or i need to decompile, editing, check crc and others?
Thanks!

nigeyboy 06-22-2010 09:57 AM

Hi All

I can't get my new splash screen to load up at all. I've downloaded V32 which loads on the car, but no modded splash. I'm using ultraiso - I'm running out of CDs & patience!!!

HELP me please

ivo1bg 06-24-2010 07:00 PM

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Hallo, friends. It's not a problem, but I wonder what is the difference between English and Amer. English lang strings. However the navboot works fine, but it's interesting what causing that difference.

KiwiJochen 06-25-2010 12:10 AM

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Originally Posted by ivo1bg (Post 751274)
Hallo, friends. It's not a problem, but I wonder what is the difference between English and Amer. English lang strings. However the navboot works fine, but it's interesting what causing that difference.

Difference between English GB and English USA is spelling and terminology.

Put both in a spreadsheet, side by side, and you will see.

ivo1bg 06-25-2010 04:49 AM

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Originally Posted by KiwiJochen (Post 751339)
Difference between English GB and English USA is spelling and terminology.
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I thought so, but I mean is there something in the character encoding on both strings, what makes the difference. When I import a single .txt file with Cyrillic characters in both strings, I can read the words in Lng_American and they appear properly, but in Lng_English I can't (there is strange symbols), like in the pictures above. When import cyrillic words in the others strings there is the same result, only Lng_American is special. I moded the font modules in order to have cyrillic characters in navboot and everything works fine and I have fully functional Bulgarian menu on my navigation. I just wondered why Cyrillic characters are readable in Lng_American, but in others Lng_... not?

RichardP1 06-25-2010 05:22 AM

That just looks like a Windows character set issue in NavTweak, it's probably set correctly on the ENU tab but not the ENG tab.

GamerGun 09-02-2010 08:28 AM

I'm new to this BMW stuff, and perhaps i'm stupid but i cannot find the NavBoot file?

I have both 2009-2 and 2010 (Business), but the only files i see within the images are:

http://www.uploader.gamergun.com/files/1/blabmw.PNG

What do i have to do?

I like to see what languages are in it, since i'm looking for the Dutch one.

If it's not included then i'll have to translate the English to dutch... or maybe someone can send me the text/audio from "Hollands"?

THANKS!

ccfj1 09-02-2010 08:36 AM

That looks like a business map image, the navboot is in the OS image mate and I'm pretty sure that navtweak won't edit the OS for the business nav.

Also navboot is for a mk4, is this what you have (but in mono mode)?

GamerGun 09-02-2010 08:49 AM

Well, i really do need Business for 5 series. Or is that not what you meant?

Is there no other app that can do this?

ccfj1 09-02-2010 08:50 AM

Post a pic of the HU that you have, it will make it easer to see what you are after.

GamerGun 09-02-2010 08:55 AM

The 2010 series, so definitely not mk4 i guess but i don't know what it is then:

http://www.caranddriver.com/var/ezfl...cd_gallery.jpg

ccfj1 09-02-2010 08:58 AM

Ok, thats the (navi II I think) modification of this unit is not possible, sorry.

GamerGun 09-02-2010 09:00 AM

OK, i guess it is not possible either to run something else on it, without losing all it's functions?

ccfj1 09-02-2010 09:01 AM

I'm not sure if it has a AUX-IN (TV type) function on that unit, the dealer may be able to change the language to Dutch though (it's possible on the mk4, so should be on this too).

GamerGun 09-02-2010 09:04 AM

Well the problem is that currently a 2006 version (which is Dutch btw) is included (why the hell anyway...), and that i want to run either 2009-2 or 2010, but none of these (on the internet) has the Dutch language sadly enough. So i think the best option is to ask the dealer for the 2010 Dutch version (since i guess they won't support my not so legal one which is only in English)?

Thanks m8.

ccfj1 09-02-2010 09:12 AM

The 2006 you have must have been modded by someone then mate, as AFAIK, Dutch is not an OEM option (I think).

Looking at the pic you posted (or the map image), I'm not sure where or how it could be done either...

I've not looked into the Business map disc as I've never had to use it.

GamerGun 09-02-2010 09:14 AM

OK, thanks for the information. This basically means that the dealer will make some money selling a original 2010 Dutch version ;)

ccfj1 09-02-2010 09:16 AM

Yes, If a Dutch version even exists??

Take some lube with you mate, you'll need it... :)

GamerGun 09-02-2010 09:17 AM

True that! I can't imagine that there is no Dutch version but you never know...

Thx

Careavanner 11-23-2010 06:49 PM

navtweak background color
 
This is my first post, so I am not sure I am in the correct place, but here goes.
Have a Z4 with MKIV , V32, Navtweak, UltraISO, & ImgBurn.

My eyes are not as good as they once were and need to set the background colors to white. Have been able to do that on the split screen, but not on the full screen. Have looked at almost all of the postings and it is either not there or I have missed it.

ccfj1 11-24-2010 04:27 AM

You can't change any colour option on colour set 1 wide (rom_col), as this is locked so not to corrupt the systems boot colour config.

However, you can change the 2nd colour set for both wide and split, rom_col2 (set2, wide) and rom_col3 (set2, split).

Do the changes on them and then switch to colour set 2 from the main menu.

Careavanner 11-24-2010 03:50 PM

Thanks for the help. I would never figured out by myself.

lordviper 01-10-2011 03:42 AM

hi guys,
im trying to reflash my nav unit, i currently have v32, and want to reflash it with my custom V32.
does anyone know how i can manually change the ID of my version to V32.1 or V33 as currently it wont update.


thanks

ccfj1 01-10-2011 04:57 AM

Do you have a mk3 or a mk4??

lordviper 01-10-2011 05:03 AM

mk4 e53 x5 mate.

thanks!

ccfj1 01-10-2011 05:06 AM

Ok.

Edit (with a hex editor), (do both files to keep the SW and Lang in sync).

1: /V_2/RR/0101/BMWC01S/lng_rel.tbl with (10010507Voices/0507/)
2: /V_2/RR/0101/BMWC01S/sw_rel.tbl with (1001app_sw/)

And make up a new number (or use the number above).

lordviper 01-10-2011 04:27 PM

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

thanks for the response mate, but i think ive bricked my nav.

i tried with 4 different copies, all verbatim 2x.

each one said that the disc was invalid.

and now my nav unit takes ages to boot and shows weird colours on the menu.

any ideas on how to fix and reach my original goal?


thanks

smorgasbord 01-11-2011 02:34 AM

I have a 2005 E53, MkIV, all original. Going to V32.

Two questions:

1) Been reading alot here, but can't figure out how to use NavTweak to skip the Accept Screen. Going to UK mode isn't acceptable (Family wants US mode kept). I see that strings 706 through 712 are for the text, and string 713 is the button label. Is there something I can do here (like make them blank?)


2) I'll use ImgBurn to burn the CD, but what's "mode 1" vs "mode 2"? Haven't encountered that before.

TIA!

ccfj1 01-11-2011 04:11 AM

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Originally Posted by lordviper (Post 794604)
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

thanks for the response mate, but i think ive bricked my nav.

i tried with 4 different copies, all verbatim 2x.

Do not force the write speed mate, use the discs recommended minimum speed, so if that's x4 use x4 if its x8 then uses that.

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each one said that the disc was invalid.
It would.

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and now my nav unit takes ages to boot and shows weird colours on the menu.
That does not sound good mate.

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any ideas on how to fix and reach my original goal?

thanks
Yes, flush the corrupted flash with a known good copy of OEM OS, (mode2 just to make sure, again at the slowest rated speed of the blank), then try your custom version (with modded version number).

ccfj1 01-11-2011 04:14 AM

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Originally Posted by smorgasbord (Post 794794)
I have a 2005 E53, MkIV, all original. Going to V32.

Two questions:

1) Been reading alot here, but can't figure out how to use NavTweak to skip the Accept Screen. Going to UK mode isn't acceptable (Family wants US mode kept). I see that strings 706 through 712 are for the text, and string 713 is the button label. Is there something I can do here (like make them blank?)

Can't help you with that I'm afraid.

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2) I'll use ImgBurn to burn the CD, but what's "mode 1" vs "mode 2"? Haven't encountered that before.

TIA!
The mk4 will accept both mode1 and mode2 formatted discs so don't worry about it (a mk3 must use a mode2 BTW).

lordviper 01-13-2011 03:36 AM

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Originally Posted by ccfj1 (Post 794803)
Do not force the write speed mate, use the discs recommended minimum speed, so if that's x4 use x4 if its x8 then uses that.



It would.



That does not sound good mate.



Yes, flush the corrupted flash with a known good copy of OEM OS, (mode2 just to make sure, again at the slowest rated speed of the blank), then try your custom version (with modded version number).

WAHEYYY!!!!!


thank you so much!!!!!

it worked!

im pretty happy with it!

now to figure out how to add speed cameras and UK postcode searching........

anyone got a guide?

ATrain91 01-14-2011 02:08 AM

Hey guys, I have done some extensive edits for my Lang_Espangol and Lang_American file and I would like to import the files back into the navboot file. I have been using the NavTweak v.2.7 for a few weeks now with good success and all of a sudden it has started to crash on me when I attempt to save. This actually began yesterday after I tried to save my new splash screen. Now I cannot save any edits at all.

Originally I was running the Gtk v.2.19.9 RTE. After the crashing began I decided to get the most recent version. Now I am running Gtk 2.22.0 RTE and I am still having the crash problem.

Funny thing I can do an export with no problem but I cannot do an import and that is a very useful feature. I know I can use the NavTweak v.2.6 and manually enter the text in and save it but that will take a long time and I am not that patient.

I see others are having problems saving with NavTweak v.2.7 also but I was not sure if a solution has been discovered yet? Any advice or guidance?

Thanks

ivo1bg 01-14-2011 03:59 AM

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Originally Posted by ATrain91 (Post 795802)
Hey guys, I have done some extensive edits for my Lang_Espangol and Lang_American file and I would like to import the files back into the navboot file. I have been using the NavTweak v.2.7 for a few weeks now with good success and all of a sudden it has started to crash on me when I attempt to save..........

Thanks

It seems to be a bug in Navtweak2.7. Make all changes that You need with Navtweak 2.7, than go to Modules Tab, find Lng_Espagnol and save it. Do the same with Lng_American. Close Navtweak 2.7 (with crash). Open Navtweak 2.6 and Replace Lng_Espagnol and Lng_American in Modules Tab. Now You should save Your navboot without problems ;).
I hope You understand what I mean ( My English is not English enough :) )

ATrain91 01-14-2011 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by ivo1bg (Post 795813)
It seem to be a bug in Navtweak2.7. Make all changes that You need with Navtweak 2.7, than go to Modules Tab, find Lng_Espagnol and save it. Do the same with Lng_American. Close Navtweak 2.7 (with crash). Open Navtweak 2.6 and Replace Lng_Espagnol and Lng_American in Modules Tab. Now You should save Your navboot without problems ;).
I hope You understand what I mean ( My English is not English enough :) )

Hey thanks for the suggestion. After several tries I finally got it to work. The NavTweak v.2.7 would crash when I would attempt to switch from the Strings Tab to the Modules Tab. I almost gave up but once it allowed me to switch the tabs I was able to follow your steps and complete my saves. Real simple steps but I probably would have never thought of that! Thanks again.

lordviper 01-16-2011 08:24 AM

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ive loved my X5 for so long, and im really beginning to hate it now.
the latest issue is this.....

today whilst driving, randomly the navigation appeared to keep rebooting every 15seconds.
then it rebooted and ive got all these weird colours on the screen (attached). its stopped rebooting.


but now when i try and downgrade to v27 so that i can re-upgrade to v32, it doesnt recognise either of the discs and acts like ive inserted nothing. despite them being the exact same immaculate discs i used only a week ago to upgrade the unit!
this is infuriating.

can anyone suggest anything to help please?


thanks.

lordviper 01-16-2011 09:00 AM

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Originally Posted by lordviper (Post 796599)
ive loved my X5 for so long, and im really beginning to hate it now.
the latest issue is this.....

today whilst driving, randomly the navigation appeared to keep rebooting every 15seconds.
then it rebooted and ive got all these weird colours on the screen (attached). its stopped rebooting.


but now when i try and downgrade to v27 so that i can re-upgrade to v32, it doesnt recognise either of the discs and acts like ive inserted nothing. despite them being the exact same immaculate discs i used only a week ago to upgrade the unit!
this is infuriating.

can anyone suggest anything to help please?


thanks.

doh!
ok now im worried! turned my car on and all seems to be working fine now.

how very weird!

Dr Phibes 03-21-2011 02:37 PM

Hi folks,

I've been wading through all these posts over the past few days, and finally managed to create a new splash screen with night mode. Looks great - so thanks to everyone who has posted with valuable information for us all here :thumbup:

I have a couple of questions though....

I have a MK4 system in a Z4.

1) Is there any way to make the splash screen stay on a little longer ?
2) After a shutdown, my SatNav screen brightness setting ALWAYS reverts back to a default midway setting. Is there any way to change the default to MAXIMUM brightness - thus avoiding having to scroll through the menu every time I start the car to turn up the brightness ?

Many thanks again everyone :thumbup:

ccfj1 03-21-2011 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Dr Phibes (Post 813272)
Hi folks,

I've been wading through all these posts over the past few days, and finally managed to create a new splash screen with night mode. Looks great - so thanks to everyone who has posted with valuable information for us all here :thumbup:

I have a couple of questions though....

I have a MK4 system in a Z4.

1) Is there any way to make the splash screen stay on a little longer ?

No.

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2) After a shutdown, my SatNav screen brightness setting ALWAYS reverts back to a default midway setting. Is there any way to change the default to MAXIMUM brightness - thus avoiding having to scroll through the menu every time I start the car to turn up the brightness ?
Try setting the brightness in the nav service menu, this may do the trick.

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Many thanks again everyone :thumbup:

RichardP1 03-21-2011 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Dr Phibes (Post 813272)
2) After a shutdown, my SatNav screen brightness setting ALWAYS reverts back to a default midway setting. Is there any way to change the default to MAXIMUM brightness - thus avoiding having to scroll through the menu every time I start the car to turn up the brightness ?

Seen this reported quite a few times now, nothing you can do about it that I know of.

ccfj1 03-21-2011 04:22 PM

The only real way is to adjust the pot on the back of the LCD panel, but this involves stripping the HU right down, I have done this and it does work, but it's a hell of a job.

Dr Phibes 03-22-2011 06:25 PM

Thanks for the replies guys.

I now have another MAJOR problem.

Just burned a new OS update CD which loaded OK and the Nav rebooted and run perfectly. Then it rebooted again on its own. Now I'm left with a "NO CD or DVD in DRIVE ERROR message.

I can eject the CD & DVD's without any problem, but the system is not reading anything.

Please HELP !

Thanks in advance !

ccfj1 03-23-2011 04:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Dr Phibes (Post 813602)
Thanks for the replies guys.

I now have another MAJOR problem.

Just burned a new OS update CD which loaded OK and the Nav rebooted and run perfectly. Then it rebooted again on its own. Now I'm left with a "NO CD or DVD in DRIVE ERROR message.

Sounds like the nav computer does not like the OS that you have loaded, (this happens), especially with custom splash screens.

I would put an OEM version of OS back through the mk4 and see if this fixes the problem, then look at what might have gone wrong, (splash pic to big (in kb) is often the cause).

However, this does not normally cause the "NO CD or DVD in DRIVE ERROR" message, normally you only get this with a worn laser.

Load and OEM version and see what happens.

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I can eject the CD & DVD's without any problem, but the system is not reading anything.
Do you have a cd version of the map that you can try, this will normally work.

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Please HELP !

Thanks in advance !
HTH

Dr Phibes 03-23-2011 12:47 PM

Hi ccfj1,

Took until very late last night to resolve the problem.

I have the maps on DVD and the OS update on CD.

Over the last few days, I have created about 6 "updates" to the navboot and installed all of them without any issues at all. ALL with the same Splash Screen.
Then last night, I changed a couple of colours on the Rom 2 & 3 maps ONLY.

Then I went to the car and updated as usual - everything went OK with the update. I removed the CD as instructed, and clicked OK to reboot the Nav.
After it rebooted, the splash showed OK, then it asked me to insert the Map DVD. I did, and the map showed OK. It was then that I clicked on the Nav Menu button and it froze. The freeze lasted about 10 seconds, then it rebootewd again.
This happened 3 times, so I removed the DVD, switched off, and set about reinstalling my original OS to restore it.
That is when it would not recognise ANY disc I put in it. OS or Maps.

I read around on the net and saw a recommendation to disconnect the battery terminal to reset the cars electrics. However, while I was searching the net for an answer, I had locked the car. By the time I returned to it (20 minutes +/-) I thought I'd give it one last try.

Thankfully, it read the disc and reverted me back to the original V32 OS.

A bit reluctant to try any more upgrades !

Thanks again for all your assistance mate :thumbup:

romka420 03-25-2011 12:49 PM

Can anyone confirm if tweaking works with 750li (E66) 2007? Thanks!!

greene08 04-01-2011 03:10 PM

Custom dark nav theme for MKIV DVD nav V32
 
I'm not sure if anyone wants this but I've spent some time updating my V32 navboot configuration file map colors scheme (night mode mainly) but I use it full time. It is a dark theme but very easy to read/see.

Basically the entire map background is black, water is blue, parks are green and the roads are all shades of orange, red and grey. I didn't change the OEM menu from the standard grey/brown and white text because I like it. It looks great.

You can download my custom navboot file here to replace the original in the V32 software using Ultra ISO. It works great.

I've also configured my car to have the British female voice--if anyone needs help with that PM me (you can't change that in the navboot file).

http://www.thegreenblattgroup.com/misc/navpreview.jpg

I've also updated the boot image to this...
http://www.thegreenblattgroup.com/misc/m_custom.gif

The 3D sky image to this...
http://www.thegreenblattgroup.com/misc/skyicon.jpeg

And the startup warning message to this (you should probably change this one to make it more personal)...

Instructions
1. Sit down
2. Strap In
3. Hold On
4. Enjoy the Ride

///Mitch

ccfj1 04-01-2011 03:20 PM

That looks like some good work mate, I'll grab that navboot and have a look, (I like the colour scheme of the map), is the menu system OEM or did you change any of them values.

Nice job mate :)

greene08 04-01-2011 03:22 PM

I left the menu system in tact (2nd/night theme) because I didn't think it needed a change. You can change it if you like, obviously! I liked the grey/brown with white text scheme.

Just remember to change the start-up warning message in the navboot unless you want yours to read like mine!!!

ccfj1 04-01-2011 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by greene08 (Post 815808)
I left the menu system in tact (2nd/night theme) because I didn't think it needed a change. You can change it if you like, obviously! I liked the grey/brown with white text scheme.

Ok, cool.

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Just remember to change the start-up warning message in the navboot unless you want yours to read like mine!!!
Hahaha, we (in the UK), dont have the accept screen anyway, so not a problem.

lordviper 04-03-2011 04:30 AM

Hi guys,
just wanted a bit of advice please?

My nav constantly reboots on its own now.

I loaded my custom v32 about 2 months ago and this has only started happening over the last couple of weeks.

From experience, does anyone know if this is OS or hardware related?

thanks!

KiwiJochen 04-03-2011 06:47 AM

Hardware: it is a weak laser, causing data corruption when reading the map cd

lordviper 04-03-2011 06:52 AM

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Originally Posted by KiwiJochen (Post 816100)
Hardware: it is a weak laser, causing data corruption when reading the map cd

NOOOOOOO!
ok anyone know about replacing the DVD-rom drive in it?

ccfj1 04-03-2011 08:24 AM

Have a look at the map disc and see if it has any surface blemishes too, this wont help, Also if you have a cd map try that, and see if the problem goes away.

lordviper 04-03-2011 08:42 AM

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Originally Posted by ccfj1 (Post 816106)
Have a look at the map disc and see if it has any surface blemishes too, this wont help, Also if you have a cd map try that, and see if the problem goes away.

Thanks mate,
DVD looks immaculate.

i may try and edit my UK map down to CD size.
anyone know if this is even possible?

KiwiJochen 04-03-2011 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by lordviper (Post 816104)
NOOOOOOO!
ok anyone know about replacing the DVD-rom drive in it?

Well thats dead easy

Open lid (no screws)
Remove DVD drive (4 screws, one cable connector)
Fit new drive and reassemble

lordviper 04-03-2011 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by KiwiJochen (Post 816136)
Well thats dead easy

Open lid (no screws)
Remove DVD drive (4 screws, one cable connector)
Fit new drive and reassemble

looked at the guide and theres soldering involved, which ive never done.
is that bit hard?

KiwiJochen 04-03-2011 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by lordviper (Post 816150)
looked at the guide and theres soldering involved, which ive never done.
is that bit hard?

You said in an earlier post:

> ok anyone know about replacing the DVD-rom drive in it?

For that, no soldering is involved.

ccfj1 04-04-2011 03:10 AM

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Originally Posted by lordviper (Post 816107)
Thanks mate,
DVD looks immaculate.

i may try and edit my UK map down to CD size.
anyone know if this is even possible?

No, not possible.

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Originally Posted by lordviper (Post 816150)
looked at the guide and theres soldering involved, which ive never done.
is that bit hard?

Easy mate, you just need a soldering iron and a solder sucker, then some solder to replace, very easy mate.

lordviper 04-04-2011 06:20 AM

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Originally Posted by ccfj1 (Post 816237)
No, not possible.



Easy mate, you just need a soldering iron and a solder sucker, then some solder to replace, very easy mate.

thanks for the response mate.

Does the solder acutally connect any circuits or is it simply to hold the drive in?
if its the latter ill be more comfortable!

thanks again.

its a shame no one in the UK does the "core" swap out style scheme.

ccfj1 04-04-2011 06:27 AM

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Originally Posted by lordviper (Post 816244)
thanks for the response mate.

Does the solder acutally connect any circuits or is it simply to hold the drive in?
if its the latter ill be more comfortable!

The solder is only to do if you replace the laser part yourself, if you plan on just changed the loading mech (with laser), then you don't need to do any soldering.

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thanks again.

its a shame no one in the UK does the "core" swap out style scheme.
Indeed.

lordviper 04-04-2011 06:28 AM

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Originally Posted by ccfj1 (Post 816247)
The solder is only to do if you replace the laser part yourself, if you plan on just changed the loading mech (with laser), then you don't need to do any soldering.

Indeed.

dont suppose youve got a link or a part number to the loading mechanism and laser?

sorry and thanks for all your help so far!

ccfj1 04-04-2011 06:33 AM

Everything you need to know mate:

http://www.xoutpost.com/electronics/...-nav-unit.html


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