RE: X5 Unrelated, but Good Information in Times of Need

EODguy · #1 03-22-2020, 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by bcredliner

100% confidence has nothing to do with accuracy. I prefer the information the CDC puts out.

That's where I got the numbers i referenced.

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Originally Posted by bcredliner

The percentages will be differ by country, any statistics are not final and there are concerns about accuracy in every case. There should be no debate about the seriousness of the virus as any degree of justification for not following the guidelines to minimize the spread of the virus.

I believe that I added (USA) or (Italy), et3 after numbers and percentages, but if not then I apologize for not being clear.

But I do want some people to understand that the USA numbers arenfrom the CDC and where possible I have provided links or searchable data and people's feelings mean nothing when facts are used.

Now about the Chinese coronavirus.... You will see it listed that way at first solely due to standard naming conventions but since China has publicly announced that the United States spread the virus in Wuhan to discredit their BS4 facility (known as an attempted genocide accusation) something that should piss off any American solely for that BS but they should not get upset over the tit-for-tat (aka diplomacy) reminder of where it came from unless Americans would rather turn this into a straight up pissing match with China till we fight a war.
I don't know about anyone else but I have fought in almost every single conflict since Just Cause in 89 till I got my desk job and assignment to Ft. Living room in 2013 and I'm tired, but if need be I'll be back to slitting throats but I'll have to drive there cause screw walking anymore!!!
I only refuse to accept that people would rather forgo Trump's style of "diplomacy" and risk war just because he is unliked except by most muslim countries because as they say "he will deal fair" in Arabic it is said "over the camel's nose".

I do agree about there being racist dicks out there and each of my kids were born abroad Panama, Philippines and Saudi Arabia so I know about being around racist dicks and being the minority but I don't believe we must pretzel our words or logic just to keep folks from having to be grabbed by their stacking swivel for being little twatwaffles.

Lift and shift fire feelings in the open.

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Overboost · #2 03-22-2020, 04:02 PM

Addressing residents ignoring official orders by congregating outside, Cuomo said Sunday: 'This is just a mistake. It's a mistake. It's insensitive, it's arrogant, it's self-destructive, it's disrespectful to other people, and it has to stop. It has to stop now.'

Very powerful message. Let's see if the New Yorkers take notice.

crystalworks · #3 03-22-2020, 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Overboost

Let's see if the New Yorkers take notice.

Not going to hold my breath. Only place I've ever been where people seemed to pride themselves on pissing other people off. Almost witnessed a fight just getting off the plane.

Maruzo · #4 03-23-2020, 01:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Overboost

Addressing residents ignoring official orders by congregating outside, Cuomo said Sunday: 'This is just a mistake. It's a mistake. It's insensitive, it's arrogant, it's self-destructive, it's disrespectful to other people, and it has to stop. It has to stop now.'

Very powerful message. Let's see if the New Yorkers take notice.

Exercising one's freedom without consideration for others' well being is just plain wrong.

bcredliner · #5 03-23-2020, 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by EODguy

That's where I got the numbers i referenced.

I believe that I added (USA) or (Italy), et3 after numbers and percentages, but if not then I apologize for not being clear.

But I do want some people to understand that the USA numbers arenfrom the CDC and where possible I have provided links or searchable data and people's feelings mean nothing when facts are used.

Now about the Chinese coronavirus.... You will see it listed that way at first solely due to standard naming conventions but since China has publicly announced that the United States spread the virus in Wuhan to discredit their BS4 facility (known as an attempted genocide accusation) something that should piss off any American solely for that BS but they should not get upset over the tit-for-tat (aka diplomacy) reminder of where it came from unless Americans would rather turn this into a straight up pissing match with China till we fight a war.
I don't know about anyone else but I have fought in almost every single conflict since Just Cause in 89 till I got my desk job and assignment to Ft. Living room in 2013 and I'm tired, but if need be I'll be back to slitting throats but I'll have to drive there cause screw walking anymore!!!
I only refuse to accept that people would rather forgo Trump's style of "diplomacy" and risk war just because he is unliked except by most muslim countries because as they say "he will deal fair" in Arabic it is said "over the camel's nose".

I do agree about there being racist dicks out there and each of my kids were born abroad Panama, Philippines and Saudi Arabia so I know about being around racist dicks and being the minority but I don't believe we must pretzel our words or logic just to keep folks from having to be grabbed by their stacking swivel for being little twatwaffles.

Lift and shift fire feelings in the open.

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I intended to delete the portion about CDC as I saw your reference after I wrote it. That's a oopsie.

Diplomacy is not a tit-for-tat process nor are emotional responses constructive, that's just point and counterpoint and then the session ends with agree to disagree at best. More often than not the relationship is further compromised and tension is increased rather than eased.

IMO the statement from China should have been addressed separately rather than calling calling it the China virus. Leaders should be aware, have more common sense understanding, of the potential of some interpreting the label as racist which divides rather than unites. Or that it will be seen by some as an endorsement that their racism is justified or emboldened to act upon.

White house updates should be without spins, sidebars and emotional outbursts, We need firm dates and numbers to reduce the confusion and fear. The presenters don't even agree. At least start on time. Yesterday it started and hour late. That is inconsiderate and looks like there is no sense of urgency. Not even an apology or explanation at to why the delay. And to think it was the time, or at any time funny, to learn Romney is self quarantined and smile and say "gee that's too bad"? That lack of empathy, though just another instance, is startling. On the other hand, it was the best White house conference so far, a little better than terrible and closer to useful.

EODguy · #6 03-23-2020, 10:15 PM

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Originally Posted by bcredliner

I intended to delete the portion about CDC as I saw your reference after I wrote it. That's a oopsie.

Diplomacy is not a tit-for-tat process nor are emotional responses constructive, that's just point and counterpoint and then the session ends with agree to disagree at best. More often than not the relationship is further compromised and tension is increased rather than eased.

IMO the statement from China should have been addressed separately rather than calling calling it the China virus. Leaders should be aware, have more common sense understanding, of the potential of some interpreting the label as racist which divides rather than unites. Or that it will be seen by some as an endorsement that their racism is justified or emboldened to act upon.

White house updates should be without spins, sidebars and emotional outbursts, We need firm dates and numbers to reduce the confusion and fear. The presenters don't even agree. At least start on time. Yesterday it started and hour late. That is inconsiderate and looks like there is no sense of urgency. Not even an apology or explanation at to why the delay. And to think it was the time, or at any time funny, to learn Romney is self quarantined and smile and say "gee that's too bad"? That lack of empathy, though just another instance, is startling. On the other hand, it was the best White house conference so far, a little better than terrible and closer to useful.

NO worries, I figured that out later on about the CDC.

As for diplomacy I can tell you that it most certainly is tit-for-tat as that's how countries basically say what would happen if such and such happened (basic generalization) I have at times over my life while in and out of the military worked at the White House (Clinton) DSSS (G. W. Bush) & Department of State Bureau of Political/Military Affairs (Obama) and my experience is that diplomacy is nothing more than saying "Nice doggy" all while getting a bigger stick.

I know that you didn't mean it that way (surely) that reporters time is more valuable than the leader of the free world and he should drop everything to keep to a schedule....

In the military and most places if you're on time you are late, but even the military has the expression (If the General wears his underwear outside his pants he's not wrong) i.e. If it's not illegal then the one who makes the rules.... makes the rules.

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