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bcredliner · #**361** 05-02-2020, 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by upallnight

Well if the government had reacted quicker to this pandemic instead of telling the nation that they had it under control and only 15 people were infected with the virus and in a couple of days it will miraculously go away maybe just maybe 1 million plus Americans wouldn't have been infected with the virus and just maybe 60,000+ American wouldn't have died.

South Korea reported their first coronavirus case the same day as the US. They reacted completely different to the virus versus the US reaction. Their economy wasn't shut down, and the number of people infected with the virus per capital is less than the US. Because of their leaders reaction to the outbreak, they are in a better position than the US.

If people have saved for a rainy day and not blow through their paychecks every time they got it maybe just maybe they wouldn't be in the financial predicament that they find themselves right now. My immigrant parents taught me that if you can't afford it you don't need it.

Since this is a car forum I have been able to enjoy the sport without having to take out a loan any time I bought a car. The cars may not have been brand new, but at least I didn't go into hock to buy them.

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bcredliner · #**362** 05-02-2020, 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Maruzo

Feels like u are arguing for arguments sake.

My statement stands as it is. There’s no need to imply I believe in anything other than what I’ve said.

I simply pointed out your mistake In believing that a carrier will not harm another person who is wearing the mask.

That’s all I said, and I showed you a simple graphic to illustrate my point.

You have to turn it into me believing taking away individual freedom is a good thing?

I don’t care if you don’t want to wear a mask when u go out into the public.

Go ahead and risk infecting more people. Since you clearly believe it’s ur constitutional right to do so.

Extremely important chart. At anything over 1.1 we can be right back to where we were or even worse. Back to shelter in place and closing America. If following the guidelines are enough to stop that from happening those that did not do their share the responsibility for that happening. If that happens it increases the possibility that the guidelines will become mandatory with penalties for non compliance. It will also could set a precedent for any actions to address any future similar threats.

Happy · #**363** 05-02-2020, 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by bcredliner

Are you implying it is a conspiracy?

Oh, it’s no secret. It’s happening. I just feel there is a lot more to this pandemic than meets the eye.

All of the aspects of it. From the infections to the financial crash.

Maruzo · #**364** 05-02-2020, 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by upallnight

Well if the government had reacted quicker to this pandemic instead of telling the nation that they had it under control and only 15 people were infected with the virus and in a couple of days it will miraculously go away maybe just maybe 1 million plus Americans wouldn't have been infected with the virus and just maybe 60,000+ American wouldn't have died.

South Korea reported their first coronavirus case the same day as the US. They reacted completely different to the virus versus the US reaction. Their economy wasn't shut down, and the number of people infected with the virus per capital is less than the US. Because of their leaders reaction to the outbreak, they are in a better position than the US.

If people have saved for a rainy day and not blow through their paychecks every time they got it maybe just maybe they wouldn't be in the financial predicament that they find themselves right now. My immigrant parents taught me that if you can't afford it you don't need it.

Since this is a car forum I have been able to enjoy the sport without having to take out a loan any time I bought a car. The cars may not have been brand new, but at least I didn't go into hock to buy them.

bcredliner · #**365** 05-02-2020, 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Happy

Oh, it’s no secret. It’s happening. I just feel there is a lot more to this pandemic than meets the eye.

All of the aspects of it. From the infections to the financial crash.

Haven't heard anything about a conspiracy. Can you provide more details? For instance who is behind it, why are they are doing this and what they expect to achieve?

Happy · #**366** 05-02-2020, 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by bcredliner

Haven't heard anything about a conspiracy. Can you provide more details? For instance who is behind it, why are they are doing this and what they expect to achieve?

Not so much a conspiracy, but how things unfolded. From the beginning of this to today, I have read so many different reports pertaining to the virus, i.e. the location of first infection, if it’s natural or synthetic. Symptoms, first it was 3, then 4,5,6,7,8, and so on. There are so many contradictory stories as well, countries pointing fingers at each other, blaming one another.

Same on the financial front. The stock market is going to crash, no its not going to be that bad. Recession, no depression, ok probably recession. There will be permanent damage, no we will fully recover. I can tell you this, some Americans capitalized big time off of the swings the stock and bond markets were experiencing, while some we’re losing badly.

When you read as much as I have during this pandemic, you start to see things that won’t be obvious to one only watching cnn, or cbs, etc.

The Who’s behind this, why they are doing this, and what do they expect to achieve question may never be answered. Maybe later in history it will all come out maybe not.

I am just stating from my perspective from all that I have read, there is more going on than the public knows. I am just not buying the whole world got sick because someone ate/visited some market.

Maruzo · #**367** 05-02-2020, 05:55 PM

Various virus with antibiotic-resistant properties have been growing in numbers as the world economies move toward efficiency and cost saving measures are prioritized over humane and healthy poultry growing conditions.

These crowded and unsanitary living conditions exacerbate the health conditions of the animals, reduces the function of their immune systems making them more susceptible to wide ranging bacterial infections.

As the animals grow weaker and more unhealthy, they are pumped full of antibodies to help them fight off the multitudes of infections they acquire in their way to the slaughterhouse.

It’s a nasty cycle that is the ideal petri dish for new and species crossing viruses to mutate and grow.

I think it’s more likely that these new and more deadly than ever viruses are a direct result of humans involvement in the environment.

Not necessarily any aggressive political or economical strategy to artificially harm any one country.

Happy · #**368** 05-02-2020, 06:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Maruzo

Various virus with antibiotic-resistant properties have been growing in numbers as the world economies move toward efficiency and cost saving measures are prioritized over humane and healthy poultry growing conditions.

These crowded and unsanitary living conditions exacerbate the health conditions of the animals, reduces the function of their immune systems making them more susceptible to wide ranging bacterial infections.

As the animals grow weaker and more unhealthy, they are pumped full of antibodies to help them fight off the multitudes of infections they acquire in their way to the slaughterhouse.

It’s a nasty cycle that is the ideal petri dish for new and species crossing viruses to mutate and grow.

I think it’s more likely that these new and more deadly than ever viruses are a direct result of humans involvement in the environment.

Not necessarily any aggressive political or economical strategy to artificially harm any one country.

Yes, it’s a shame the way the Earth has been treated. Is it too late? Who knows? For me, God knows.

I was watching a program about being vegan. The one thing that caught my attention was the poultry and hog farming. It’s a shame you have to watch a program that for the most part I would never watch to find this out. The news never reports this stuff.

I agree, it’s not necessarily political or economical strategies, but again no one knows. Surely not the general public. I think mankind has become destructive, and there is consequences.

bcredliner · #**369** 05-02-2020, 08:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Happy

Not so much a conspiracy, but how things unfolded. From the beginning of this to today, I have read so many different reports pertaining to the virus, i.e. the location of first infection, if it’s natural or synthetic. Symptoms, first it was 3, then 4,5,6,7,8, and so on. There are so many contradictory stories as well, countries pointing fingers at each other, blaming one another.

Same on the financial front. The stock market is going to crash, no its not going to be that bad. Recession, no depression, ok probably recession. There will be permanent damage, no we will fully recover. I can tell you this, some Americans capitalized big time off of the swings the stock and bond markets were experiencing, while some we’re losing badly.

When you read as much as I have during this pandemic, you start to see things that won’t be obvious to one only watching cnn, or cbs, etc.

The Who’s behind this, why they are doing this, and what do they expect to achieve question may never be answered. Maybe later in history it will all come out maybe not.

I am just stating from my perspective from all that I have read, there is more going on than the public knows. I am just not buying the whole world got sick because someone ate/visited some market.

What should I read to learn what you have? Are you not buying it because of information you have found or is it just a feeling?

Overboost · #**370** 05-02-2020, 08:25 PM

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Originally Posted by bcredliner

The virus is the bad guy. The government experts put together guidelines to protect us from the bad guy and get it gone ASAP. The state governors individually decided when and to what extent their state would adhere to the guidelines.

There are programs and they are discussing more to help compensate for financial difficulties. Don't you qualify for any of those programs?

My guess is the majority thought there would be some folks that wouldn't comply from day and were not surprised that the longer it went the more resistant others would become. Are you saying the states should not have taken any action to follow the guidelines because they were destined to fail?

I have to say I appreciate your new approach regarding this thread.

I am am a micro business (not a small business) as I am the only person employed by Digital Competition Systems. I have never considered asking the Government for making my business successful, I am the only one responsible for failure or success .

So no, I do not qualify for any SBA or any other Government programs. In my opinion, asking for help from the Government is accepting the fact that I cannot provide for myself or my family and I am nothing but a failure in my business or personal ambitions. I have never sucked off the Government tit and never will. I have been raised to be the captain of my own destiny. (Sink or swim if you will.)

Even my wife could claim she is scared to work at Target because of the pandemic and could be claiming unemployment insurance along with the Federal Pandemic Unemployment Assistance to be making $900 a week but that is is just dishonest and deception and we will not be a part of the welfare state.

As far as the masks go, you do realize the even the N95 masks will filter only up to 0.3 microns and the Corona Virus infection droplets are .06 to .15 microns so the opinions of masks protecting the population in this thread are null and void. PERIOD.

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