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Old 02-26-2006, 01:12 AM
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Well lookie what the red-headed gal stirred up...your absence is noted, ma'am. Grey Goose martini in hand, or out running down Earth-Firsters in their Volvos?

More good points than I care to tackle. But wherever this goes, thank Roc for his service. It ain't easy, ain't pretty, the pay sucks and the beer was non-alcoholic. Thank you.

And regarding the 82nd, (touche, man, touche, that is Senator Benson quality)...at least they are all over 18...I believe Lawrence of Arabia (English chap) liked them on the young side. I shall refrain from reciting the Monty Python Lumberjack song.

America, much like England in times past only comes in large doses. Ok, well, let's go back to the hot women--I thought Canada had a great per-capita hottie scene (the ones that aren't killing people--http://www.crimelibrary.com/serial_k...jump_page.html)...per

America is the land of opportunity and there is no excuse for being on welfare. My wife flew to the CajunDome after Katrina with a church group. They brought back a bus full of impoverished, lost, and homeless people. They were placed in donated apartments. I helped unload donated furniture in those apartments. For folks I have never met. Those folks got a helping hand and a fresh start. The rest was up to them. Some will make it, some won't. No doubt, Katrina was a fiasco, but the challenge was unprecendented, and coupled with the cultural and economic demographics, there was no pretty outcome. I went through Hurricane Charlie. On dry land. With cash, connections, and chainsaws. Messy process any way you look at it. Either way, FEMA should be shuttered and responsibility given to the states.

We are one of the most giving societies in the world, and it could be argued that Gitmo is a product of our naivete. You'd think the bombing of the USS Cole would have sent us over the ramparts, but no, we tried to respond in a measured and politically sensitive way. Gitmo does not hold poets, satirists, or playrights. Gitmo is filled with people that want to kill us, that were in the process of trying to kill American soldiers when they got nailed, soldiers who are "Zionist infidels" who allow women to vote, drive their own cars, and have a career. I'm sorry, not going to happen, and if Gitmo (medical care, prayer mats, beards allowed--are the Canadian aid workers being treated as well?) is offensive, so be it. I am offended that I can't get on an airplane without wondering if the cargo hold is going to blow.

There is also no excuse for a nation not to venerate and fully participate in democracy...but we get the leadership we deserve. I don't think Rove is going to get a free pass in 2008. The issues are going to be real in '08. I hope the American voting public demands the same of the candidates. We must be better guardians of our national identity--for instance, friends of mine recently moved their business to Toronto--but guess what? The government spent months vetting them, their business, their finances, and provincal regulations demand that they take french lessons! America needs to button things up and stop trying to be so politically correct. Legal topless swimming pools and beaches like Vancouver has might also be a plus.

Insisting on a degree of control and security as regards our ports and borders while war maimed young people fill the hallways of Walter Reed is not too much to ask...hats off to free speech, folks
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Old 02-26-2006, 01:47 AM
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Farenheit 9/11

If you have watched this documentary, than you are able to see way the things are being done by Bush. I don't know about you guys, but to have him for a president for three more years, souds scary. It is obvious that the money is the fuel that runs his engine, and to get that money he is able to step over every single American. My personal opinion is that he will approve this contract with UAE, the same way he got Alito to the Supreme Court, after failing to put that old chick from Texas. Just to add that I would like to see Bush do a simple IQ test. I wonder what his score would be?
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Absolutely not, but only one needs to be. And it's not only about the security. This country survives on imports from other countries, and this is turning over the keys to our economy.
So it was ok when it was owned by a British company?
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Well accella, I gotta say your posts are witty, well thought out and enjoyable to read. Appreciate the insight, I am wading out of this one, but well done.


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Well lookie what the red-headed gal stirred up...
The intention of my post exactly. I am not as informed as I should be, other than what common sense tells me. I was curious to how others saw this situation. And now I have different perspectives. Mission accomplished! Any by the way Accella, what would I do if the ports where shut down and I couldn't go to Bloomies to buy my Prada shoes to wear while drinking my Kettle One dirty martinis?
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Imo, one of the more interesting discussion threads I've read here...
Very thoughtful and well written posts by Accella,Nick and theRoc, et al.
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So it was ok when it was owned by a British company?

I would say yes. When was the last time Dubai was on the US list of allies in any event? If you actually attempt to compare Dubai and GB as far as their relationship with the US...I can't see a leg to stand on. I would have little if any issue with GB, Canada or Australia running a port system in the US. These our countries that in the past have stood beside the US, regardless of how idiotic some of our motives were. That is loyalty. When a country has soldiers dieing in the arms of your soldiers, that is loyalty.

Here is my top list of "areas" or countires that shouldn't touch the US port system:

- China
- Saudi Arabia
- Yemen
- Qatar
- UAE
- Egypt
- Anyone on the Horn of Africa
- France


I also don't want to hear admin. staffers coming on the news telling me "security procedures are in place". We can't even investigate 90% of the cargo coming in when GB runs the port, you're telling me we can investigate more when Dubai has it? The fact of the matter is, when at war and generally hated by the middle-east, it isn't the best plan of action to sell out your commerce to it. It makes me sick that this wouldn't have received as much notice had governors , yes governors , taken issue with it. Congress is just as asleep at the helm as the current administration.
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The intention of my post exactly. I am not as informed as I should be, other than what common sense tells me. I was curious to how others saw this situation. And now I have different perspectives. Mission accomplished! Any by the way Accella, what would I do if the ports where shut down and I couldn't go to Bloomies to buy my Prada shoes to wear while drinking my Kettle One dirty martinis?
Oh, I suspect you'd figure out a solution... Teterboro...NetJets..?


Thanks to all for sharing thoughts concerns, and insights...the talking heads on Meet the Press have hijacked our thread...Sen Benson and Rep. Peter King (R-NY) are having a fairly intelligent conversation.
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Alright....I guess I can stand down now...revert back to def-con1. a certain member chose to stop with the inflamatory non fact back commentary.....

<deep breaths, deep breaths>

Hey Acella....In my heart of hearts I regret not going AIR ASSUALT!!!!!!! should have done it!

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Alright....I guess I can stand down now...revert back to def-con1. a certain member chose to stop with the inflamatory non fact back commentary.....

<deep breaths, deep breaths>

Hey Acella....In my heart of hearts I regret not going AIR ASSUALT!!!!!!! should have done it!

Agile, Hostile, N Mobile!!! HOOOOORAhhhhhh!
You may yet get your chance...someone may need the perimeter of her Prada store secured...
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