Gresch...They do pay 'taxes'...They often will pay $1,000+ to another illegal immigrant to smuggle them over. It's a tariff on import/export

I believe that they can write that off as "non-reimbursed transportation expenses" on line 14 of the 1040EZ.

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...Followed by line #16 which is the deduction for dry-cleaning while they are out of town on travel...Sometimes, when you cross a river, it tends to mess up the starch-job on a given shirt.

Who on this forum is a genuine 100% American? Who does not come from someone who at one point was under illegal status? That's what this country is all about...I think almost 100% of immigrants want to pay taxes in order to become legal. Before making your dumb A S S comments about how good this country would be without immigrants take a step back and learn the history of the country you live in, because if it was not for immigrants (Which either your parents or grandparents at one point were) America would be a massive Greenland and none of us would be here.

North America does have a border problem and before they start kicking people out they should fix the problem that caused the current situation that we are currently in. When a water pipe breaks in your home, you don't mop the water on the floor as the pipe continues to leak, you fix the pipe then clean up; America should fix the border and all will fall into place; but then who are we to say that it's too late for someone to get a piece of the pie? That’s what this country has been all about, immigrants coming here, working and eventually leaving back to their country, besides these people are here doing the jobs that none of us in this forum would do.

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"That’s what this country has been all about, immigrants coming here, working and eventually leaving back to their country, besides these people are here doing the jobs that none of us in this forum would do."

^^^Not sure I follow this statement. I don't think Americans have a problem with legal immigration. I shouldn't have to learn Spanish......

No one is forgetting the history of the country.

You are 100% correct that the US has a border problem.

No one is trying to deny anyone a LEGAL piece of the pie.

"I think almost 100% of immigrants want to pay taxes in order to become legal" I think you're way off on that one.

The US IS trying to fix the border problem. It's obviously too big of a chunk of real estate to put an INS or Border Patrol office every 20 feet, it's just impractical, so there are laws in place instead, obviously they're not working taht well, but while everyone is complaining "there's a border problem" no one seems to be suggesting a viable alternative beyond spending $5B to put up the new Berlin wall between texas and Mexico. Mexico shares a HUGE responsibility for the border problem, if the Mexican government weren't so corrupt more corporations would set up shop there and help improve the economy and the quality of life for Mexicans.

" immigrants coming here, working and eventually leaving back to their country," HUH? and while they're here getting a piece of the pie and not paying taxes, stfu about how the country is run and what they think of America and Americans, no one invited illegal aliens here, if you're going to crash a party, be polite while you're in attendance, if you don't like it, head on back home.

Why should I, a single guy with no kids, be paying school taxes to put an illegal immigrants 8 kids through the US public school system? Illegals RARELY own a house and hence pay no property taxes and hence not fund the education system, yet I the good old Amercan tax payer who plays by the rules and who does own a house and has no kids is paying astronomical property taxes of which a big chunk goes to the education system. How is that fair?

Illegal immigrants, and the key word there is ILLEGAL, seem to think that they have a voice, and rights in this country and are protected by the constitution, well, and you'll probably jump on me for this, but you know what? they don't. Just as I don't ahve a voice in Canada, or Mexico, or the UK or Spain, etc etc etc.

I've said enough, and prior to this post I've said that I would support legal immigrants as long as they pay their taxes and follow the laws of the US, and I still believe that.

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I'm also single and your comments are !!! Like you said, no one is trying to deny something that is legally theirs. The word illegal is consistently getting passed over.

That's a pretty ignorant statement! This country is all about legal immigrants, which is not the topic of this discussion. The issue at hand is illegal immigrants, i.e. criminals that are demanding rights and privileges they don't have nor deserve. Do you really not get it? Or are you defending them because you're the one who "came from someone who at one point was under illegal status"?

Well said in plain English, gresch.

May I humbly suggest an integrated approach:

1. Simplify the employment and tax codes for small businesses in America. Our system is so f--ked up as far as making it easy for American small businesses to grow. We need border kiosks set up where by you buy a work permit, get fingerprinted pay for a background check, buy a workers comp insurance card, and go to work. Want to get paid, gotta have your cards in order.
2. Dis-incentivise American businesses to hire illegals.
3. Cut off all free medical care to illegals while ramping up a simplified and portable employee paid and controlled workers comp insurance program (think pre-paid cell phone service)
4. Freeze admission to schools for new illegal students while making sure the kids already in school are not tossed out. Make sure they pay some form of tuition for this.
5. Phase out the bi-lingual crap over a 3 year period. It's not that I don't like other languages, but English is the great assimilator; people who talk and sound alike will grow together, not apart.
6. Have a two strikes law as far as illegal border crossers. Caught once, you get finger printed, retnal scannned, dressed in a white jumpsuit and good bye. Caught twice, six months hard labor in a labor camp. After a certain amount of time, American scofflaw companies should also incur severe penalties as well. Coyotes, drug smugglers and gang members all get a day in a military court (open to the press) and then a bullet to the head.
7. Place a 25% tax and a cap on all Western Union out-country remittances. We need to monitor these monies. You want to come here, work hard, and build a life legally? Great, but let's encourage the money and the hearts and minds to stay in America.

Any other ideas?

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