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How about the fact that all most all your post are negative and by their basic nature your posts have nothing to add. Take your anti Bush anti war soap box somewhere more productive! If you want to change things go support your local democratic running for office just please stop whining like a little baby.

I am also anti Bush, anti War and pro Gay, just get tired of your nonproductive daily discussions about the same old same old.

This is X5 World not anti Bush World please move on.

I am sure you have interesting thoughts on other things like cars and your X5.
Lets talk about fun things and not be dragged down by age old problems like war and politics.

Are you still talking? Admin...can we step in here with this guy? I'm doing all I can not to say what I'd like to say....thanks.

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Alright guys, let's take a step back here. Mr. Wagner simply posted the fact that Rumsfeld's statement could've been phrased better. It went from there.
Mr. Blue, you did not add anything to the discussion except to step in and start attacking Mr. Wagner about his views and the threads he posts.
If you don't like the thread, don't read it or don't reply to it. You could've left it at the part that you're tired of these types of posts. You continued on about Mr. Wagner.

Mr. Wagner, thank you for the self-censorship and not entertaining him.
Mr. Blue, the thread is in the lounge, read it if you like, it's not mandatory.

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Blue if u have such an issue w/ Wagner's posts, y read them?

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My point is simple his posts are all of the same, ANTI BUSH ANTI WAR

This is X5world not Wangers Anti Bush soap box.

I feel its easy to bash someone but far harder to cause positive change.

Once again I am not a fan of Bush and the War but am tired of people bashing Bush with no purpose or gain. We are stuck with him for two more years. Wanger and the other bleeding heart liberals can do a lot more positive things. We are Americans and while we have the right to speak our mind and therefore speak out against the president and the war; we need to consider the impact. By impact I mean that all this anti war view is fueling the fire of the terrorist and only making maters worth.

Is it to much to think ask people to think before they speak? The more I explain the more I see Rumsfeld point, every day people ask when is the war going to be over. He and almost everyone else realize that we are in deep shit and doesn't no what to do and has no clue how or when we will end the war. The one thing is clear the press or Wanger harping on the same question is not helping things. We need to act like Americans and support men and woman at war, not ask every day when are we pulling out. This would require that people fore go the short term pleasure of bashing Bush and look for a long term solution.

Wanger or Wagner leaves it to the admins.....again.

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"promote the general welfare, not provide the general welfare"

We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.

Whats your problem Wagner this is not a personnel attack.

Yes its a different point of view but it far from personnel.

If your a liberal how can you support censorship?

oh you Wanger you !!

x54.4blue; lighten up. Read the title of this Forum; t.h.e..l.o.u.n.g.e. Mr. Wagner has a much right to be anti-bush on this forum as any other forum member has the right to be pro-bush..(uuuh even just writing that was painful)

btw, if you want positive change, (like in 2 years..) it might actually be a GOOD idea if as many people in as many places keep on Bush-Bashing till then..

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