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Old 11-07-2006, 05:38 PM
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There are some really good points being made here---especially about how the owners are the ones who make the difference. IMO, increased costs and owner screening for certain types of breeds (and what about tracking, like a car title) is a no brainer.
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in theory though, any dog, no matter how big or small
has the potential to kill a small child. it just depends
on where the bite occurs.
In theory, I could run a three minute mile and win the gold medal in the next summer olympics for diving.
In reality, it ain't going to happen..

Some breeds kill and kill and kill and kill and kill and kill and kill, others do not. Get over it.

Your defense while emotional, is not really logical. It is logical to regulate the breed worth the worst history of violence against children that result in deaths.

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dogs are what u make them and train them to be.
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Old 11-07-2006, 06:05 PM
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Holding dog owners accountable is a necessary but not sufficient part of the solution. Fines and punishment do not save the lives of the victims because it's after the fact. Prevention is paramount.

It's like drunk driving. Jail time, fines and taking away driver's licenses aren't nearly as effective as not letting drunks get behind the wheel in the first place.
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Aleko,

There is a big difference between banning and regulating. I think BAN is a strong word. I do think regulate is a much smarter and more realistic approach to dealing with a problem like this.
As far as sending dog owners to jail if their dog kills, well, that's RE-ACTIVE, not PRO-ACTIVE.
If you had a son, brother, daughter, sister, that was killed by a dog, you would wish they had done something earlier.. In the same vein had a family member been killed by a gun if there were no Brady Law.

But to ignore the deaths that continue to happen month after month, year after year, is not the right approach either.

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I know there is a difference, and I was replying to the bb's post with that statement. And I think having clearly defined responsibilities and ramifications of ownership of certain breeds (or maybe all breeds for that matter) is still a proactive measure, and should help avoid some of these incidents. Yes, I said some and not all because you can't protect everybody from everything, no matter how hard you try and how many laws you put on the books. There will always be criminals who break laws; there will always be those who, as per your example, misuse guns with criminal intent; there will also be those who neglect and abuse their dogs. That's life, and there is only so much you can do to protect yourself from those incidents. Ironically, this thread pops up at the same time as another thread about carrying guns, and here's one more reason to carry a gun (I know, in this particular case it wouldn't have mattered, but it would in others). I will take my chances when confronted by a human and give him the benefit of the doubt so to speak (depending on the situation of course) before resorting to deadly force; I will not do so when confronted/attacked by certain breeds of dogs and will use deadly force at the slightest threat (and no, I'm not a vicious dog hater/killer, I have one at home and have had dogs all my life). Dogs are far deadlier and more unpredictable than any human could be, and they cannot be reasoned with or persuaded into retreat at the sight of a gun - they will keep attacking until one of you is dead; I'd rather it be the dog. I'll just leave it at that without getting too far off topic.
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Very sad! I didn't weigh on that last discussion but I did keep an eye on it. It's tough. I friend of mine had two Rottweilers and when he had his first baby, he decided to put one down because he feared it would harm his baby since it had nipped at some people and demonstrated some overly aggressive behavior. He kept the other one since that one is nothing but a big pussycat slobbermonster.
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In theory, I could run a three minute mile and win the gold medal in the next summer olympics for diving.
In reality, it ain't going to happen..

Some breeds kill and kill and kill and kill and kill and kill and kill, others do not. Get over it.

Your defense while emotional, is not really logical. It is logical to regulate the breed worth the worst history of violence against children that result in deaths.

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i definitely agree w/ regulating the breed in the sense that just anyone
should not be able to breed them. they should be breed by licensed
breeders.
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