9/11 Witness - Page 5

Eric5273 · #41 12-19-2006, 03:05 PM

This was not posted to set up another tiresome debate on the subject.

I posted this article for the people who are actually interested in such things. For example, I'm guessing that blondboi and Wagner both found the article interesting, and perhaps a few others as well. Since this subject has indeed been debated in this forum in the past, I know that there are some in this forum who are actually intersted in the 9/11 truth movement, and I'm guessing that some of them did not know about this guy and what he had to say. I certainly did not know prior to reading this and a couple of other articles this past week.

So if you don't want to read the article, then don't. As for the comments about it somehow disrespecting those killed on 9/11 by wanting to know the truth, that is just pure BS. I've been to some of the 9/11 truth movement conferences, and 99% of the people there organizing the events and speaking there are family members of victims killed in the attacks.

Others at these events include mostly former government people like former military, CIA & FBI, and one conference I went to even had a former member of George W. Bush's cabinet who spoke.

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Wagner · #42 12-19-2006, 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Eric5273

This was not posted to set up another tiresome debate on the subject.

I posted this article for the people who are actually interested in such things. For example, I'm guessing that blondboi and Wagner both found the article interesting, and perhaps a few others as well. Since this subject has indeed been debated in this forum in the past, I know that there are some in this forum who are actually intersted in the 9/11 truth movement, and I'm guessing that some of them did not know about this guy and what he had to say. I certainly did not know prior to reading this and a couple of other articles this past week.

So if you don't want to read the article, then don't. As for the comments about it somehow disrespecting those killed on 9/11 by wanting to know the truth, that is just pure BS. I've been to some of the 9/11 truth movement conferences, and 99% of the people there organizing the events and speaking there are family members of victims killed in the attacks.

Others at these events include mostly former government people like former military, CIA & FBI, and one conference I went to even had a former member of George W. Bush's cabinet who spoke.

I found it interesting....so I guess to quote the boy king "Mission Accomplished"

Lambeau · #43 12-19-2006, 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Trouties

Everyone needs to come down to planet earth and quit dreaming. It is an insult to everyone to even post this kind of crap.

Good point Trouties. It's an insult to all those who died and especially those who are fighting in this war against terrorism. Give it up Eric, you're getting nowhere!

Lambeau · #44 12-19-2006, 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by skarletknite

this thread is bullsh*t. the sounds of explosions? those were the fcking floors collapsing one on top of the other! its disrepectful to all the friends (i lost many that day), family members, nypd and nyfd rescue workers to suggest it was a conspiracy. i am also outraged that anyone would logically think our own government would do this. its absoulutely ludicrous and anyone trying to make the argument simply looks ridiculous. just because a bunch of layman are offering their opinions (useless) about what they heard, etc, and some "experts" want their 5 minutes it does not change the facts.

just as you have the right to free speech, so do i, and friends of mine in the nypd join me in saying: if you dont like this country, get the fck out.

GOOD ONE SKARLETKNITE!!!

Lambeau · #45 12-19-2006, 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by blondboinsd

I agree, calm down

Furthermore, while I feel that the US had plenty to do with 9-11 (I remember reading about troop deployments on 9-12-2001, how would you get it that organized in 1 day? NO way

I do however agree with Wagner, this board is very set in it's ways and people feel strongly either way, this thread has been used many times and I feel it's beat dead honestly, I feel we should retire this and just let people have their different opinions, this thread will change Nobodys view

Troop deployments can be accomplished in as little as 2 hours. Trust me Ryan.

Eric5273 · #46 12-19-2006, 06:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Lambeau

It's an insult to all those who died and especially those who are fighting in this war against terrorism.

Just the same as it was an insult to those fighting against the Spanish in 1898 to investigate whether or not the Spanish sunk the USS Maine. Of course the Spanish sunk the USS Maine...right? How could anyone but a crazy conspiracy theorist think otherwise?

Eric5273 · #47 12-19-2006, 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Lambeau

Troop deployments can be accomplished in as little as 2 hours. Trust me Ryan.

The only problem is that the FBI did not conclude that Al-Queda was behind the attacks for several days, and yet there were already toops on their way to Kuwait and Uzbekistan. Me thinks that the Military already knew who would be held responsible for 9/11.

Richard Clarke, the FBI's head of counter-terrorism at the time, wrote in his book that the FBI had the names of all 19 hijackers within an hour of the first plane hitting the WTC and before Flight 93 even crashed. Yet the FAA claims they did not even know Flight 93 had been hijacked at that point.

Lots in inconsistancies in the government's story. Each agency's story conflicts with other agencies.

statdoc · #48 12-19-2006, 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Eric5273

Richard Clarke, the FBI's head of counter-terrorism at the time,

Richard Clarke never worked for the FBI. He worked directly for National Security Council.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_A._Clarke

skarletknite · #49 12-19-2006, 09:28 PM

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Originally Posted by blondboinsd

Well noone put a gun to his head and made him read now did they? This is the lounge and people can post as they please, I mean while I understand where he is coming from, I would say, tuff it up, noone made you read this debate....

pretty easy for you to say. try putting yourself in someone elses shoes.

tone it down? you have the right to state your opinion and i have the right to state mine. dont post things if you are afraid of someone disagreeing with you, or if you read something you dont like. if its truly a "debate" or a community then u must listen to all sides.

dont bother replying, i am done

Eric5273 · #50 12-20-2006, 12:36 AM

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Originally Posted by statdoc

Richard Clarke never worked for the FBI. He worked directly for National Security Council.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_A._Clarke

My bad. You are correct.

On pages 13 & 14 in his book Against All Enemies, Clarke says that the FBI had distributed a list with the identities of 18 of the 19 hijackers (including 3 of the 4 hijackers on Flight 93) prior to 10 AM on 9/11. He says he is sure of the time because he remembers that he was reading the list when the North tower collapsed at 9:59 AM.

Yet according to the 9/11 Commission Report, the FAA first became aware that Flight 93 was hijacked at 10:08 AM, at which time they notified NORAD.

Care to explain this?

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