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Old 12-31-2006, 09:48 PM
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I buy my cables from Bluejeanscable.com. They sell professional quality and I know you will love them.
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Old 12-31-2006, 09:50 PM
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Friend of mine just spent $500.00 on "Bi-axial" wire for his two speakers. I don't know what that is, but I don't wont' it.
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Old 12-31-2006, 10:07 PM
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For example, HDMI cables seem to come (from Monster) in 3 different sizes. 600, 800, 1000. A 1000 gauge wire (12ft.) can cost a couple hundred bucks. So the question is, is it really going to give you a better signal than a 600 gauge cable?
Umm, that is not the gauage of the wire. It is the model number of the product that Monster Cable is selling. HDMI probably uses 24 guage. Speaker is 10 or 12 gauge for the good stuff.

-- Now before we jump into this conversation, it's important to note that any hi-grade cable is going to be an improvement over crappy low grade cable. But when you start making values on the difference between 600 gauge cable and 1000 gauge cable, is there really any difference?
If you are talking about the model number than difference is small to the average eye. Just buy the cable for BlueJeansCable.

Lets say for example, you are running HD Direct TV. That signal is coming into your receiver on a COAX line anyway. And since digital is simply transferring 10011000101. Why should the cable make a difference except to block out interfearance?
Depends! Short or long runs?

-- Some people have said that companies like MOSTER have made hundreds of millions of dollars selling people stuff they don't need. For example, huge gauge wire and power conditioners. (My electrician has told me over and over that California's power is very consistent (at around 118) or something and there is NO need for expensive power conditioners... It does not improve quality of signal.
I have seen the home of the owner of Monster Cable on TV. He is making a killing on his product.

So I guess one of the questions here is, diminished returns. When do we reach diminished returns on cables and what is just a waste of money. Of course for speakers it's important to run thick wires, and you should always use HDMI vs. S-video, etc. but at what point are we just spending more money on stuff we don't need?
We are suckers for pretty cables. My plasma is mounted on the wall and all my wires are routed in the walls.

I recently bought a 1080p plasma and hooked it up to my PS3 for blue-ray. I connected it using a 600 gauge wire from monster (vs. a 1000 gauge wire for monster) and I could not imagine this tv being capable of having a better picture regardless of wire. The picture is insane.. So who is buying these 1000 gauge wires?
The Audiophile buys them and the average consumer does. Please remember 1000 gauge is not correct.

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Digital cables are all the same if properly constructed. They don't need to be expensive to be properly constructed. Thick gauge wires and exotic materials doesn't necessarily mean it's properly constructed.

Analog cables do benefit from thicker guage wires and exotic materials up to a point. IMO chasing the last 1% of difference by spending 10x more cash doesn't make much sense. I recall one speaker cable round up test that rated Home Depot 8 guage bulk speaker cable as good as some brand name cables costing 5 times as much (no it wasn't Consumer Reports so it was a proper test).
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Hey All,

...So who is buying these 1000 gauge wires?
Thanks, B
Good Thread; I was curious to read what some of the
Xperts here, whose opins I highly regard, had to say...

I agree, but from a low-tech point of view, I suspect.

Who's buying these hawsers?!
- Noveau riche that hand their "A/V Consultant" $50Gs
and tell 'em they want 'the best'.
- obsessives that read too many posts on the A/V Forum
and spend more time arguing about inane minute specs than
they do listening or watching their stuff.
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agreed with most here...monster is a marketing company, no better than most. in fact, if you can return monster for a full refund, wouldnt it be fun to try to compare that cable with one from radio shack?
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Monster cables are monster rip-off. enough said.
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You ask some great questions here about when is the point of diminishing returns versus just a waste. Does anybody know?

There is concensus that monster is overpriced, but that wasn't the point of the thread - at least I don't think it was.
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Monster cables are monster rip-off. enough said.
But still, monster cables look soooooo pretty.
I have to admit that I do have some Monster cables (they were had at a very considerable discount ), they are well constructed, but I haven't noticed that much, if any, difference from "no-name" cables I have.
I would go with the cheaper options listed in this thread as well.
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