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Old 02-14-2007, 05:11 PM
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If they have a tourist visa, then they are legally allowed to be here.
Yes, but that has nothing to do with my point.
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Yes, but that has nothing to do with my point.
What is the point that you are trying to make?
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Old 02-14-2007, 05:26 PM
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From the Center for Immigration Website:

Social Security and Medicare. Although we find that the net effect of illegal households is negative at the federal level, the same is not true for Social Security and Medicare. We estimate that illegal households create a combined net benefit for these two programs in excess of $7 billion a year, accounting for about 4 percent of the total annual surplus in these two programs. However, they create a net deficit of $17.4 billion in the rest of the budget, for a total net loss of $10.4 billion. Nonetheless, their impact on Social Security and Medicare is unambiguously positive. Of course, if the Social Security totalization agreement with Mexico signed in June goes into effect, allowing illegals to collect Social Security, these calculations would change.

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Why should natural citizens take the citizenship test along with immigrants who have come to this country leagally and have applied for citizenship?

What were talking about is ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS.
Good answer. Now test to vote sure, but not test to be a citizen in the country they are born in.

Again why do people skim over the ILLEGAL aspect????
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And so you actually think illegal aliens don't have phoney SS cards? Sure you do.

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You need a social security number to quality for medicare or medicaid, thus illegals do not receive such benefits.
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Social Security and Medicare. Although we find that the net effect of illegal households is negative at the federal level, the same is not true for Social Security and Medicare. We estimate that illegal households create a combined net benefit for these two programs in excess of $7 billion a year, accounting for about 4 percent of the total annual surplus in these two programs. However, they create a net deficit of $17.4 billion in the rest of the budget, for a total net loss of $10.4 billion. Nonetheless, their impact on Social Security and Medicare is unambiguously positive. Of course, if the Social Security totalization agreement with Mexico signed in June goes into effect, allowing illegals to collect Social Security, these calculations would change.

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Stupid right-wing websites!
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Bank of America is now going to offer credit cards without a SSN being required. They allow Non SSN people to open up accounts and if you have an account for 3 months they will now let them get a credit card without supplying a Social Security Number. I called B of A today to ask how I go about getting numerous credit cards without a SSN and she put me on hold 3 times obviously talking with management. I mentioned that if no SSN is required then I can open an account with a false name and after having a good account standing after 3 months I could then qualify for a credit card less the SSN. I asked her who is going to pay the tab for these credit cards after the people max them out and disapear. At this point the only thing she would say is, can I help you open a credit card account! When I went to open a bank account years ago even though I had $10,000 in cash they wouldn't let me open an account without a major credit card. Oh yeah I forgot I was an american with a social security number. Sorry but this pisses me off
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Bank of America is now going to offer credit cards without a SSN being required. They allow Non SSN people to open up accounts and if you have an account for 3 months they will now let them get a credit card without supplying a Social Security Number. I called B of A today to ask how I go about getting numerous credit cards without a SSN and she put me on hold 3 times obviously talking with management. I mentioned that if no SSN is required then I can open an account with a false name and after having a good account standing after 3 months I could then qualify for a credit card less the SSN. I asked her who is going to pay the tab for these credit cards after the people max them out and disapear. At this point the only thing she would say is, can I help you open a credit card account! When I went to open a bank account years ago even though I had $10,000 in cash they wouldn't let me open an account without a major credit card. Oh yeah I forgot I was an american with a social security number. Sorry but this pisses me off
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