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Old 03-04-2007, 01:33 PM
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Consumer Report, does it again...

Top 10 cars?? All Japanese...and more importantly they actually discuss the fact that all they pick is Rising Sun rides..:
http://money.cnn.com/galleries/2007/...cks/index.html

Is it just me or do half these look like Tonka Toys you would buy at WalMart?
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Where are the American cars?
This year's Consumer Reports Top Picks are all vehicles produced by Japanese companies. This is actually the second year in a row that that's been the case. In the 10 years that Consumer Reports has produced annual "Top Picks" lists, it's the fifth time there have been no American cars among them.

The biggest problem is that fewer American cars even make it into consideration. To be a "Top Pick," a vehicle must first earn Consumer Reports' general recommendation. That doesn't mean it's the best, but it's at least proven to be reliable, safe, it handles well and is reasonably easy to live with.

Of 23 Toyotas tested by Consumer Reports since 2000, 20 are recommended. Of 37 General Motors cars tested, only 13 are recommended. For Ford, it's eight out of 17 and, for Chrysler, four out of 20.

Besides reliability, American cars can fall down in other areas. Ford, for example, tends to do well in ride and handling, but poorly in braking performance and fuel economy, according to Consumer Reports. While GM has improved greatly in the "fit and finish" of its cars, there still tend to be problems with emergency handling and fuel economy, Consumer Reports says.

Chrysler has the second-lowest score of any automaker in Consumer Reports testing. Bad visibility, cheap interiors and noisy engines are cited as specific problems.

Things are getting better, though. New models and recently redesigned cars from Ford and GM are much more reliable and getting better test scores. The Ford Focus and Buick Lucerne, while not top-rated, are cited as two very good cars that signal a potential turnaround for Detroit products.

And in case you think Consumer Reports always likes Japanese car companies, there is one company with lower average scores than Chrysler: Suzuki.

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Got to love a completely bias reviewer.......
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The only choice I agree with is the MX5.
Again, shows that CR has not even a basic knowledge of cars..
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No surprise there Ryan
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The Japs are good at everything. You yourself say that the Yanks are getting better but still not there. So what's the fuss about? The top spots go to the top dawgs.
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The Japs are good at everything. You yourself say that the Yanks are getting better but still not there. So what's the fuss about? The top spots go to the top dawgs.

Huh? So you're saying there isn't a single German ride better then a Japanese one...I would strongly disagree.
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CR is getting too much undeserved attention from us BMW enthusiasts. CR treats cars like appliances. 'nuff said.
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Old 03-04-2007, 03:27 PM
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Huh? So you're saying there isn't a single German ride better then a Japanese one...I would strongly disagree.
I can't think of a single German vehicle that would have higher reliability than it's Japanese counterpart. They're looking at things from the pov, which vehicle does everything well.

That being said, I would buy a 5-Series instead of an M-Series, etc etc. CR based on the mainstream consumer, not the enthusiast.
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Jap |jap| noun & adjective informal offensive short for Japanese .

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LOL Those little people make some of my favorite cars, def don't wanna be dissin them. Thanks.
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Two things I can think of to validate CR's point:

First of - European cars are pricy through out the range - a BMW is that little bit better than most cars, but they are usually that bit more expensive because they are built up to a certain quality instead of down to a price. For the general consumer that is a good point for why a japanese car would be a better pick. They seem to have the best balance of price and quality.

Secondly, as to why there are no american cars in the list - I am reminded of a Jeremy Clarkson comment: "You dont realize how important brakes are, until you are in an American car and haven't got any". A line that I, until two weeks ago, thought was BS. It can't be that bad, right? Well - my wife drove her dads Yukon XL (instead of our X5) and she was not pleased with stopping "the landboat" - just try comparing the brake discs of the cars you pass with those on your BMW's - soon you will notice a scary trend - one that would match with CRs reporting. The issues aren't limited to brakes, but it is a good point IMO.
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