Scary stuff - Plot to blow up JFK - Page 2

AzNMpower32 · #1 06-03-2007, 10:22 PM

Oh no this thread turned political!!

Eric5273 · #2 06-03-2007, 10:37 PM

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Originally Posted by MrLabGuy

Eric...You forget or don't understand there can be no "Absolutes" when it comes to war or terrorism. Your "Absolute" just defined our troops in Iraq as terrorists. You can't equate the men who stormed Normandy with Jihad nor can you equate our troops in Iraq with Al Qaeda. Sometimes war is messy and the enemy of your enemy temporally becomes your friend.

Yes, there can be absoultes. I can say that things like terrorism and genocide are ABSOLUTELY wrong. It doesn't matter who carries them out or for what purpose. And anyone who supports such activities is as bad as the terrorists themselves. And that includes groups like the Contras and Alpha 66, as well as groups like Hamas and Al-Queda.

Since you believe otherwise, please give me an example of when terrorism would be acceptable to you. And don't include names of countries or individuals in your example. Give me a hypothetical example using "Country A" or "Country B" or "Group A" or "Group B". Let's see you put your beliefs into words.

rebound · #3 06-03-2007, 11:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Eric5273

Yes, there can be absoultes. I can say that things like terrorism and genocide are ABSOLUTELY wrong. It doesn't matter who carries them out or for what purpose. And anyone who supports such activities is as bad as the terrorists themselves. And that includes groups like the Contras and Alpha 66, as well as groups like Hamas and Al-Queda.

Since you believe otherwise, please give me an example of when terrorism would be acceptable to you. And don't include names of countries or individuals in your example. Give me a hypothetical example using "Country A" or "Country B" or "Group A" or "Group B". Let's see you put your beliefs into words.

MrLabGuy · #4 06-03-2007, 11:04 PM

Impossible considering your definition of terrorism. You equate the taking of any innocent lives in warfare as terrorism. Which would make all wars a terrorist action.

I guess we should have let the Germans take over Europe and allowed the atrocities of Auschwitz because carpet bombing Germany would have lead to way too many innocent lives lost.

So though I also believe Terrorism and Genocide are wrong our definition of what constitutes Terrorism and Genocide are completely different. I DON'T believe our troops in Iraq are terrorist and I believe the carpet bombing of Germany in WWII was justified regardless of the civilian losses. That goes for the Atomic bombs dropped on Japan as well.

The Atomic bombing of Japan is a bit tougher for me to stomach but end the end it saved countless thousands of American lives and ended Japans involvement in the war. I've seen some of the aftermath and that included some tragic scenes of children who survived the event. It was heartbreaking and I'd wished there were a way to avoid that tragic reality of war. Fact is we have minimized collateral damage and death with technology and rules of engagement but try as we might death is a reality of war.

Eric5273 · #5 06-04-2007, 12:04 AM

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Originally Posted by MrLabGuy

Impossible considering your definition of terrorism. You equate the taking of any innocent lives in warfare as terrorism. Which would make all wars a terrorist action.

I guess we should have let the Germans take over Europe and allowed the atrocities of Auschwitz because carpet bombing Germany would have lead to way too many innocent lives lost.

So though I also believe Terrorism and Genocide are wrong our definition of what constitutes Terrorism and Genocide are completely different. I DON'T believe our troops in Iraq are terrorist and I believe the carpet bombing of Germany in WWII was justified regardless of the civilian losses. That goes for the Atomic bombs dropped on Japan as well.

The Atomic bombing of Japan is a bit tougher for me to stomach but end the end it saved countless thousands of American lives and ended Japans involvement in the war. I've seen some of the aftermath and that included some tragic scenes of children who survived the event. It was heartbreaking and I'd wished there were a way to avoid that tragic reality of war. Fact is we have minimized collateral damage and death with technology and rules of engagement but try as we might death is a reality of war.

What is your definition of terrorism?

jst2878 · #6 06-03-2007, 11:50 PM

whats really crazy is that I am first due to JFK...Ladder 158 (swamdawgs)

Michelle · #7 06-04-2007, 12:10 AM

MrLabGuy · #8 06-04-2007, 01:12 AM

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I'm chumming the waters but in reality Eric will bite on anything. I just can't believe he openly equates our soldiers with terrorists and more people don't protest. Just think soldiers died so he can say what he says in public.

America really is a great place...Too bad Eric does not believe that to be true.